Please help with information about a birth record 1810 in Polaniec, Sandomierz, Poland
I need help with record #16 - Starts on page 007, and finishes on page 008. Looks like the birth of a child to Walenty Pelser (catholic) and Margarethe Zeybowna (Saib) (lutheran). I think they live in Luscyza outside of Polaniec. Is their child Anna? I see names Ludwika Pelser and Jakob Szmied, perhaps godparents? I'm interested in identifying information, like how old everyone is (especially parents), & relationships if it clarifies anything.
Thank you very much for your help!
Best regards,
Susanne
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Birth Record No. 16, Polaniec, Priest acting as the Officer of the Polaniec Civil Records Office, County (gmina) Polaniec, District Staszow, Radom Province (Department), of Anna Pelcer, born in Luszyca on the 21st September 1810, birth reported on the 22nd September 1810, daughter of Walenty Pelcer, a Catholic, farmer, 38 years old, resident of village Luszyca, gmina (county) Polaniec, House No. 7, and of his wife, Malgorzata Zeybowna (Sajb?), 30 years old, of Evangelical faith. Witnesses: Ludwik Pelcer, 34 years old, and Jakub Szmit, 35 years old, both settlers in village Luszyca. This records was read and signed by us with the father of the infant and the witnesses. Signatures: Jan Zawiszany, the Rector of Polaniec Parish, acting as Civil Records Office Officer, Walenti Pelzner, Ludwig Pelzner, and Jakub Schmid.
You may check for this record in MyHeritage, where Janusz Tomalski updated his family tree with Anna Pelcer on the 14th March 2024. You may contact him by email if you are a member of MyHeritage. In his family tree he wrote that Malgorzata Pelcer was born Rudolf, and that she was born year 1870, not 1875, acc. to the above birth record of Anna Pelcer. There are no other entries for this Pelcer family in MyHeritage.
As you may have noticed in Geneteka.genealodzy.pl there are birth records of other Pelcer children
I also noticed a death record of daughter of this couple:
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Death Record No. 128, Polaniec, of Maryanna Katarzyna Pelcera, who died on the 5th March 1815, death reported on the 8th March 1815, she lived 8 years, daughter of Walenty Pelcer, 30 years old, from village Luszyca, and of his wife, Malgorzata, born Saypina, House No. 10, from village Luszyca, they are settlers. Death reported by Walenty Pelcer, 30 years old, and Michal Justyna, 56 years old.
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Maria, you're amazing!
This teaches me a lot about this family. It also helps me to know where to find ages in the records. Thanks for the additional reference too. It's easier to look for on FamilySearch than Genbaza as long as I'm in the library.
I have ages going all over the place for Valentin Pelser in these records. As you saw with the birth record - it says he is 38 in 1810 on the initial record you translated, and 30 in 1815; I have another record where he is 28 in 1813, and another 34 in 1818. From this, I think I can guess that he wasn't really 38 on the record I attached and that the priest wrote wrong, do you agree?
I'm trying to research a Valentin Pelser/Belzer who I can see now is likely this Valentin Pelzer's father. Do you know of anywhere that might have records in this area earlier than 1810? Also in Czermin Mielec area very nearby. The original Valentin Pelser immigrated to the area in 1783 through Vienna. I have run into this problem before and haven't found anything... I want to go to Poland!
Thank you for all your help!
Best regards,
Susanne
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Susanne, you may try metryki.genbaza.pl click on WEJSCIE and enter Polaniec in the box, then check each of the Polaniec selections. The first one starts with records in 1810, but next is as follows:
- POŁANIEC PARAFIA
- 1665-1763_sl
- 1666-1725_ur
- 1759-1785_ur
- 1797-1809_zg_Rapt
- 1810
You will click on each and then search the records which will appear on the right. You can handle it.
This site is free and they function on donations. If you find it helpful, you may donate to them. A genealogist research would be quite expensive. Hope it works for you.
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Maria, this is wonderful! I am immersing myself in these records. You have helped me very much!!
with warmest regards,
Susanne
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