Help determining parents
Sorry if this is not the place to post as I see much of the requests are translation. For me this is to determine parents of Everhard Van Wietmarschen
Had for years in a tree for Everhard (b 1740 in Nordhorn) that his parents were Johann Van Wietmarschen and Anna Evers. However I just came across these church records and there is no indication of relation.
Johann Sebastian and Anna https://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=nordhorn&ID=I45527&lang=en
Everhard https://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=nordhorn&ID=I42176&lang=en&som=y
Looking back at other's trees (Geneanet, Ancestry, MyHeritage), everyone that shows the parent/child relationship doesn't have a single German record. It's only info they got from someone else's tree.
To add to confusion there is another record of an Anna Evers also born in 1700 showing she was married to Johannes Bernardus (Van Wietmarschen) and it lists a Johann Everhard as their child but the birth date is 15 years off of what I have for Everhard in the above link.https://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=nordhorn&ID=I45717&lang=en
So are there other records out there I haven't found that show the true parents of Everhard born 1740? For now I have separated the relationship between him and Johann Sebastian and Anna until I can find a corroborating record somewhere.
Thanks so much
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The links lead only to secondary sources (Ortsfamilienbücher = "Local heritage books"). The correctness and completeness of these cannot be judged without recourse to the original sources (original church book records). Some primary sources are cited but not linked.
You should try to find the original birth record of Everhard. The church books of St. Augustin in Nordhorn are available on Matricula Online (matricula-online.eu). I had a quick look for the births of 1740 but couldn't find him there (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/deutschland/osnabrueck/nordhorn-st-augustinus/0029/?pg=30). Is that year of birth correct? What is your source?
You may also consider to contact the author of the pages of the Local Heritage Book. The contact info is given in the box on the right on that page.
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@Ulrich Neitzel thanks. The links shows the birth at about 1740 so it can be a year or two before or after. Is there an easier way to review the matricula records versus page by page?
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The records are not indexed so one need to visually scan the pages. However in this book it is usually less than 10 births per year. I didn't find Everhard in the years 1736 - 1743. The births of his siblings Henricus, Adelheid, and Anna are found in this book.
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The baptism record for Everhardus is in the Taufen F002-1 | 0029 record set. It is image 18, or handwritten page 16 (at bottom). His record is the last one on the right hand page. He was baptized on 4 April 1725.
(https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/deutschland/osnabrueck/nordhorn-st-augustinus/0029/?pg=18)
The two family book entries that you referenced show that Everhard was first married in 1764 (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/deutschland/osnabrueck/nordhorn-st-augustinus/0012/?pg=12) and his widow remarried in 1782 (https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/deutschland/osnabrueck/nordhorn-st-augustinus/0012/?pg=20). Obviously he died before the second marriage, but unfortunately the death records for that period don't seem to be online at Matricula.
The date of "about 1840" may have been a guess base on the age of his wife Henrica.
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The 4 April, 1725 baptism record gives the child's name as Johann Everhard and parents as Johann (or Joannes) Van Wiedmarschen and Anna Evers. It does not have the father's name as "Bernardus" even though the OFB gives that name. (The d and t in Van Wiedmarschen are interchangeable spelling variations)
Additionally, the 19 April 1722 marriage record of Johann "Sebastian" Van Wietmarschen and Anna Evers actually gives the grooms name as Johann (Joannes) Van Wiedmarschen and the bride as Anna Evers. I don't see the "Sebastian" name in this record.
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/deutschland/osnabrueck/nordhorn-st-augustinus/0012/?pg=2
It appears to me that the two men listed in the OFB (Johann "Sebastian" Van Wietmarschen and Joannes Bernardus N.N.) who married the two Anna Evers are actually the same person and in these records actually uses only the forename Johann (Joannes). It is possible that his full name included Bernard and Sebastian but his baptism record needs to be found to confirm. The two Anna Evers are the same woman. And so it appears that the 1725 record is the baptism record for your Johann Everhard Van Wietmarschen.
Edit to add:
The Johann Everhards father's baptism record, 18 June 1697, shows his full name as Johann (Joannes) Sebastian. The "Bernardus" reference must be an error in the OFB.
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/deutschland/osnabrueck/nordhorn-st-augustinus/0029/?pg=7
@Barry Kirschner , hope this helps and now you have actual records!
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@Ulrich Neitzel @bobgreiner1 @JohnsonGreg thank you so much for all the help. So grateful.
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