Difficult Request
Hi Maria,
I really appreciate all of the assistance that you have given me. I have been working on my genealogy steadily for about 5 years. I have been very successful in finding records for my ancestors that originated in other European nations, but Poland records have been difficult to find. In the past month, I have been more successful with Polish records than the previous 59 months combined.
There are several records that I would really like to find, but I fear that they may have been lost or destroyed due to the history of the area. My second great grandfather was Anton Piasecki, son of Jozef. I have the birth record of Anton and now, the birth record of Jozef. Anton married Julianna Nawrocka in 1880 in Radwienczewo (Skulsk). They had a son, Franciszek, who was born and died in 1881. I have obtained all of these records as well. After that time, the records seem to disappear. I have several records that indicate that my second great grandmother's name was Julianna Czarnecka. I have found no records (B, M or D) for Julianna Czarnecka. If my information is accurate, this would mean that Julianna Nawrocka would have passed in 1881-1882. Anton Piasecki would then have married Julianna Czarnecka in 1882-1883. They proceeded to have five children together in the 1880s and 1890s.
I have checked with the local archive office in Skulsk as well as the archive office in Konin. There are no records available to confirm Anton's second marriage or the births of any of these five children.
If Julianna Czarnecka did exist, I believe that she was the daughter of Tomasz Czarnecki and was born between 1863-1865. All of the events mentioned here would have happened in the parish of Skulsk. Once again, the records seem to have disappeared between 1863-1869.
I don't know whether you have a special source for your information or whether your resources are the same as mine. I don't expect a miracle, but I thought that I would ask. I have one more translation request for this week and a few more searches such as you assisted me with yesterday. Thank you once again.
Sincerely,
Stephen
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Familysearch Catalog Skulsk records end with year 1881, possibly missing the last page of index, where Julianna Piasecki could have been indexed as Юлянна Пясецка.
Szukajwarchiwach – Polish State Archives also end with accessible on Internet Skulsk records with year 1881, and possibly missing the last page of index. Then next year records for Skulsk are 1886.
Basia.famula.pl Skulsk records end with year 1881, referring to szukajwarchiwach
Your next option is to contact Diocese Archives for Skulsk duplicate records. If you use pilot.pl or mapa.szukacz.pl then click on Ukryj after Hotele, to eliminate all the Hs or hotel advertisements, and if you drop down to select instead Koscioly (Churches), then enter in the top box Skulsk. When you get it on map, hover with your computer mouse over Church in Skulsk. You will find there Diocese for Skulsk Church in Wloclawek. Contact them by email e-mail: archiwum@diecezja.wloclawek.pl requesting research for the death record of Julianna Piasecka after 1880 and possible next marriage record of Antoni Piasecki.
If you search in Poznan Project from 1881 -1899 entering only the bride’s name as Julianna Czarnecka, you will find a number of marriages with this name. You may check those marriages if any of them is your Julianna Czarnecka, how far they took place from her home. Unless you are sure your Julianna Czarnecka married Antoni Piasecki.
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I forgot to mention that I had contacted the Archdiocese in Wloclawek some months back. They responded that they did not keep records and that it was the responsibility of the local parishes. I checked with the parish in Skulsk on at least two occasions, and they never responded.
As you suggested, I checked with the Poznan Project. None of the marriages listed for Julianna Czarnecka took place close to Skulsk. The closest location was Polanowice, 21 km to the north. Unfortunately, this Julianna would have been 62 years old when giving birth to the first of five children. The next closest locations were over 65 km away. It seems that all of these sites have utilized the resources that are available through the Archive Offices. When a record is gone, there is no bringing it back.
Once again, I would like to thank you for your efforts and insight. Have a good day.
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