Denmark Odense VorFrue Sogn Birth record
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Øster Flakkebjerg Herred
Skifteprotokol (1847-1853):
Anmeldelse 31. August 1850: Tjenestekarl Hans Jørgen Pedersen i Saltø Mølle død d. 30 August.
Forældre: Peder Christensen og hustru Stine Thomasdatter.
Source (page 88, bottom left and top right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14981554#133797,33499621
NB: So the probate doesn't mention how he died......
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I found that both Niels Hansen and their son Hans Nielsen (born 1853) dies in Herlufmagle Sogn.
Dramatic circumstances......
Died: 10. Juli 1858 in Herlufmagle Sogn.
Name: Hans Nielsen.
Indsidder Niels Hansens søn af Julebæk [= Hjulebæk].
?Voldelig? bragt af dage ved et ?...saar iggiennem Halsen"
Age: 5
Source (page 14, nr 16): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21883141#442172,79797307
NB: Violently killed with a ?..wound through the throat !!!
Died: 13. Juli 1858 paa Præstø Amts Sygehus i Nestved [= Næstved].
Name: Niels Hansen.
Gift indsidder i Julebæk [= Hjulebæk].
Født i Goerup i Herlufsholm Sogn [a mistake as he is born i Rislev Sogn]
Age 37.
Source (page 14, nr 17): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21883141#442172,79797307
NB: So he died 3 days after his son in the hospital..........
Tybjerg Herred.
Skifteprotokol (1850-1866).
D. 20. September 1858......indsidder Niels Hansens enke Inger Marie Jacobsdatter af Julebæk til at forblive siddende i uskiftet boe"
Source (page 289, top right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=15543843#132561,33280338
So because of the probate, we can prove it was the right Niels Hansen, even though his birthplace data was wrong.
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Found newspaper articles on this case.
Lille Belts Tidende eller Middelfart Avis for Politik, Handel og Bekjendtgørelser (1857-1858):
D. 19. Juli 1858.
Barnemorderen.
Den i foregaaene Nr. omtalte Indsidder fra Julebæk Mark, som forrige Løverdag dræbte sin sexaarige Søn, er i Tirsdags afgaaet ved Døden paa Præstø Amts Sygehus, hvor han især den sidste Dag viste sig at være i høi Grad sindsforvirret.
NB: So Niels Hansen killed his own son, and then died in the hospital, where he especially on his last day was confused.
Lille Belts Tidende eller Middelfart Avis for Politik, Handel og Bekjendtgørelser (1857-1858):
D. 14. Juli 1858.
Mord.
Nestved 12. Juli [where they got their information from].
I Løverdags Morges har en Indsidder paa Gjeldsted Mark dræbt sin 6=aarige Søn ved at skjære Halsen over paa ham. Manden har været Syg og sengeliggende siden i Mandags; i Obduktionsforretningen i Løverdags var det ikke at faae ham til at svare paa et eneste af til ham rettede Spørgsmaal; han er taget i Forvaring og indlagt paa Præstø Amts Sygehus.
So Niels Hansen cut his sons throat [Saturday morning]. He didn't answer any questions to the authorities over why he did it [probably questioned Saturday afternoon].
Two day after the murder [Monday] he gets so sick he has to be admitted to the hospital and three days later [Tuesday ]he died in a confused state.
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I also found Inger Marie Jacobsdatter in Census 1860 (without her surviving son, Jacob Hansen, who was in the care of Peder Jensen & Kirsten Jensdatter in Rislev Sogn]
Census 1860: Præstø, Tybjerg, Herlufmagle Sogn, Herlufmagle Skoledistrikt, En Gaard - Frederikseg.
Phillip V. Schlüter 49 Gift Husfader. Ejer Hamborg
Pouline Gäethgens 47 Gift Hans Kone Holsten
Bernhard 23 Ugift Deres Barn. studerer. i besøg hos Faderen Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Mathilde 21 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Bertha 19 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Emilie 17 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Jenny 15 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Constance 12 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Carl 10 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Vilhelm 8 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Axel 6 Ugift Deres Barn Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Elise Guldberg 33 Ugift Lærerinde Nyborg, Svendborg Amt
Simon Hansen 20 Ugift Avlsforvalter Maribo
Olivia Scharff 25 Ugift Syjomfru København
Laura Smith 35 Ugift Husjomfru Randers
Dorthea Hansen 22 Ugift Stuepige Præstø
Sophie Larsen 27 Ugift Mejerske Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Johanne Marie Larsen 25 Ugift Tjenestepige Rønnede, Vester Egede Sogn, Præstø Amt
Stine Pedersdatter 21 Ugift Tjenestepige Tybjerg Sogn, Præstø Amt
Ane Marie Hansdatter 31 Ugift Tjenestepige Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Inger Jacobsdatter 34 Ugift Tjenestepige Fodby Sogn, Sorø Amt
Sidse Marie Nielsen 22 Ugift Tjenestepige Fensmark Sogn, Præstø Amt
Niels Frandsen 21 Ugift Karl Holløse, Sorø Amt
Christen Jensen 18 Ugift Dreng Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Lars Christensen 53 Gift Røgter Herlufmagle Sogn, Præstø Amt
Source: Dansk Demogratisk Database.
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Died: 9. December 1899 Kommunehuset i Aasø.
Name: Inger Marie Jacobsen.
Enke i Aasø. Fødested og Navn kunne ikke opgives.
Afdøde var enken efter indsidder Jens Jørgensen.
Sidste fælles bolig var Aasø Skyttemark.
Alder: 74 aar.
Source (page 214, top): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17115390#150453,24943389
Tybjerg Herred.
Skifteprotokol 1897-1905.
Nr 146/18 99/1900.
Aar 1899 d. 12. December anmeldtes at indsidder Jens Jørgensens enke Inger Marie Jacobsdatter af Aasø d. 9. samme maaned var afgaaet ved Døden, 74 Aar gammel. Boet udlagt afdødes Søn arbejderen Christian Julius Jørgensen af ?Frederiksberg/Frederiksborg? for begravelsens udgifter.
Source (page 24, left mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=15543843#128643,33606662
NB: So no mention of Jacob Hansen.....
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Christian Julius Jørgensen comes to Copenhagen.
Københavns Stadsarkiv.
Politiets Registerblade [being used 1892-1923].
Name: Christian Julius Jørgensen.
Født 20-05-1869
Køn Mand
Erhverv Kusk [= Carriage Driver]
Fødested Skjelby [= Skelby Sogn]
Adresses:
01-05-1898 Dannebrogsgade (Vesterbro) 46, 3. sal
01-11-1898 Viktoriagade 6, 4. sal
01-05-1900 Gasværksvej (Gasvej) 8B, 2. sal
01-05-1903 Gasværksvej (Gasvej) 8A, 2. sal
01-05-1908 Istedgade 94, 3. sal
01-11-1909 Istedgade 96, 5. sal
03-05-1912 Frameldt til Svendborg [So leaves to Fyn].
01-11-1916 Sønder Boulevard 76, 5. sal
17-02-1922 Vesterbrogade 100A, 2. sal, hos Petersen
19-10-1922 Sønder Boulevard 76, 5. sal
Wives:
Trine Johanne Petra Jørgensen. Born 24-11-1872.
01-11-1918: Anna Elise Jørgensen. Born 24-09-1864 ?Frederiksberg?
Source: https://kbharkiv.dk/brug-samlingerne/soeg-i-indtastede-kilder/post/17-842430
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Wow Neils I just noticed all this. Im excited to go through this tonight. Thankyou
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I found Jacob Hansen also in Copenhagen!
Lægdsrulle 1866. Præstø Amt. Lægd 139 = Rislev Sogn.
Nr. 2.
Mother: Inger Marie Jacobsdatter [He is "uægte" (born outside marriage), so the mothers name is listed].
Name: Jacob Hansen.
Born: 15/4 1850 in Fodby Sogn.
Height: 63 1/4 danish tommer.
1873: EK5-1123 [EK5 is the code for "Egentlig Krigstjeneste - Infanteriet". 13. Bataillion.
Moves: 143-Z-105 [= Moves to Næstved Købstad in 1874]
Source (page 433): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481037#19018,1298291
Lægdsrulle 1874. 2. Udskrivningskreds. Lægd 143 = Næstved Købstad.
15/3 1877: 23. Bataillion.
Moves to I-2B-A-54 [= 1. Udskrivningskreds Lægd 23 (Ordrup) in 1877]
Source (page 421, nr. 105): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481037#19046,1307534
Lægdsrulle 1877. 1. Udskrivningskreds. Lægd 23 = Ordrup.
Moves to 1-A-3564 [To Copenhagen in 1877]
Source (page 183, nr 54): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481033#19255,1392901
Lægdsrulle 1877. 1. Udskrivningskreds. Lægd 1 = København.
1881: Forstærkningen.
1886: Afsked. [He is deleted in the Lægdsruller]
Source (page 452, nr 3564): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481033#19254,1392670
Københavns Stadsarkiv.
Politiets Registerblade.
Navn: Jacob Hansen.
Født 15-04-1850
Død: 11-01-1919
Køn Mand
Erhverv Arbejdsmand
Fødested Fodby
Adresses:
01-05-1892 Haraldsgade 117, 2. sal
01-05-1899 Haraldsgade 115, 2. sal
Wife: Birthe Johanne Marie Hansen. Born: 29-05-1851 in Regnstrup.
Source: https://kbharkiv.dk/brug-samlingerne/soeg-i-indtastede-kilder/post/17-1539600
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Jacob Hansen: Wife & Children.
Viet: 21. Januar 1877 i Førslev Sogn [Øster Flakkebjerg Herred, Sorø Amt]
ungkarl Jacob Hansen. Født 15. April 1850 i Fodby. Tienende i Nestved.
pigen Birte Johanne Marie Hansen. Født 29. Juni 1851 i Gjunderslev Sogn [Gunderslev, where Rejnstrup is].
Tienende i Førsløv.
Forlovere: Jens Jørgensen (his father) & Hans Olsen (her father).
Source (page 24, nr 3): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21913087#427829,78496455
Født: 6. Maj 1877 i Kvislemark Sogn.
Navn: Thora Marie Sofie Hansen.
Fader: kontrolbetjent Jakob Hansen. [So he is a ticket-officer at the railroad at Klampenborg Station]
Moder: hustru Birthe Johanne Marie Hansen - 25 Aar.
Man opholder sig paa Klampenborg Jernbanestation [Ordrup Sogn, where they were in 1877]
Barnemoderen opholder sig hos faderen ?husmand? Hans Olsen, Kvislemark.
Source (page 7, bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21883077#423524,78054351
Født: 22. August 1882 i Sankt Stefans Sogn [København]
Navn: Anna Hansine Elisabet Hansen.
Fader: arbejdsmand Jakob Hansen.
Moder: hustru Birthe Johanne Marie Hansen.
Adresse: Haraldsgade 8.
Source (page 99, nr 295): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21618419#380191,73940089
Census 1880: København. Lyngbyvej 9, Portnerbolig.
Jacob Hansen Mand 29 1851 Gift Arbejdsmand
Birthe Johanne Marie Hansen Kvinde 28 1852 Gift Hans hustru
Thora Marie Sophie Hansen Kvinde 2 1878 Ugift
Source: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid11381829
Census 1890: København. Haraldsgade 113-115-117. Forhuset 2. sal.
Jacob Hansen Mand 39 1851
Birta Marie Johane Hansen Kvinde 38 1852
Thora Marie Sophie Hansen Kvinde 12 1878
Anna Hansine Elisabet Hansen Kvinde 7 1883
Source: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid21968858
Census 1901: København. Haraldsgade 115.
Jacob Hansen Mand 50 1850 Gift Husfader Gasværksarbejder
Johanne Hansen Kvinde 49 1851 Gift Husmoder
Thora Hansen Kvinde 23 1877 Ugift Datter
Ella Hansen Kvinde 2 1898 Ugift Datter ["uægte" daughter of Thora]
Source: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid20816624
Census 1906: København. Haraldsgade 115. Forhus 2. sal.
Hansen Jacob Mand 55 1850 Gift Husfader Gasværksarbejder
Hansen Johanne Marie Kvinde 54 1851 Gift Husmoder
Hansen Thora Kvinde 28 1877 Ugift Barn
Hansen Ella Kvinde 6 1899 Ugift Barn [of Thora]
Hansen Anna Kvinde 23 1882 Ugift Barn
Source: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid16216617
Census 1911: Haraldsgade 115, 2. sal.
Jacob Hansen works at "Østre Gasværk" on Strandvejen as a Gasværksarbejder. [Gas-worker]
Thora works at Galle & Jessen on Lyngbyvej 8 as a "Chokoladearbejderske". [Chocolate-Worker]
Source (page 67, bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=65257#65257,12585031
NB: That makes me so nostalgic. As a little kid in the 70's my parents lived close to the Galle & Jessen factory, so one of my earliest memories was smelling the liquorice from the factory and seeing the purple neon frogs on the clocktower-chimney rising from the factory.
Below the clocktower-chimney you can see the white-painted "Galle Jessen" on the house facade.
At the main road "Lyngbyvej" on the house facade right of the policeman, you see a "Ga-Jol" commercial.
Ga Jol was the famous liquorice pellets, started to be produced in 1933: https://www.bestofdenmark.dk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gajol-1-scaled.jpg
The Galle & Jessen factory was built in 1884. In 1902 they had started to produce dark-chocolate frogs with mint-fillings, hence the idea for the neon-frogs in 1965, which were one of the oldest neon commercials in Copenhagen.
Going to University on bicycle along Lyngbyvej I passed the factory and the smell and sight was always a highlight of the day.
Today it is all gone.......the factory in 1999 and the neon frogs on the chimney-clock was removed in 2009.
Census 1916: Haraldsgade 115.
Jacob still working at Østre Gasværk.
Thora now works as "dropsarbejderske" [making candy] in the factory at Heimdalsgade.
Anna is "Manufakturarbejderske" at Fonnesbeck [an exclusive departement store for ladies in Østergade 47]
Source (page 150): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=72412#72412,13082609
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The census gives the yearly income and taxes!
Jacob earned 1650 Kroner and has to pay 319 Kroner in tax to the state and 13.54 Kroner to the commune.
Thora earned 744 Kroner - tax is not written.
Anna's income and tax has not been filled out in the census.
Source (page 152): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=72412#72412,13082611
Død: 11. Januar 1919 i Aldersro Sogn [København].
Begravet: 18. januar 1919 Bispebjerg Kirkegaaard.
Navn: Jacob Hansen.
Pensioneret gasværksarbejder. Haraldsgade 115, 2. sal.
Født i Fodby Sogn 15. April 1850.
Søn af ugift Inger Marie Jacobsdatter, nu død.
Gift med Birthe Johanne Marie, født Hansen. [So she is still alive]
Alder: 68 Aar.
Source (page 45, nr 2): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17113779#147906,24417925
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Wow Neils I just read all your findings on this family and I'm blown away about Neils Hansen and the Murder of his son by him. He must of had a mental breakdown or something to have done that and then die three days later. How tragic. Thankyou for taking the time to help me. And for sharing your life's experiences of where you lived and those special memories. I hope someday I can come and see for myself this beautiful land. My son lived in Germany for 3 years and we visited often but did not make it to Denmark before he left then covid broke out. Thankyou again for sharing. You are a real treasure. Thankyou for your service. It means so much to me.
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Hi Beata.
The whole affair with Niels Hansen and his son is really mysterious.
If you kill your son, but not showing any visible remorse and then dying three days later it really doesn't sound like a "normal" mental breakdown.
We just don't have a lot of information to go on.
We don't even know if Inger Marie Jacobsdatter and/or Jacob Hansen were present when it happened.
We don't even know how the authorities got involved. Who informed them? Was there any witnesses?
The police protocols for Tybjerg Herred are sadly not online, but since Niels Hansen died just three days after the murder of his son, there was no need for any trial and thus for taking witness accounts. It was apparently obvious to all, that he was responsible.
The newspaper only states that Niels Hansen was questioned and didn't respond to any questions, and then 2 days later he becomes suddenly very sick and dies 1 day later in a confused state. The newspapers didn't say he was visible ill, when he got arrested.
Just some speculation:
Could he have suffered from something like late-stage cryptococcal meningitis? (inhalation of fungal spores from soil or bird dropping, where the fungus starting from the lungs spreads and crosses the brain membranes) or Tuberculosis meningitis.
These types of meningitis can cause confusion, psychosis and kill you - both tuberculosis and "dirty" soil was everywhere in Denmark in this time period.
I hope you can come to see Denmark as well - preferable in summertime (winters are dark, windy and rainy).
Cheers
Niels
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Great insight. Thanks again. Yes spring time before all of Europe is on vacation, Hopefully before I get too old. Cheers to you too. Til next time.
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