Need help locating records in Bagheria, Palermo, Italy
How can I locate the following records on either FamilySearch and/or another Site? Can you provide links?
Births/Baptisms for 1855 in Bagheria, Palermo, Italy
Marriages for 1870 in Bagheria, Palermo, Italy.
Thank you.
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@DangKwei Sue is looking for help in understanding how to read the years and figure out what pages these records start on.
In FamilySearch, I am assuming they are these films:
Battesimi, matrimoni, morti 1843-1855, film 1761330
Battesimi, matrimoni, morti 1855-1864, film 176331...should be at start of this film I assume
Matrimoni 1874-1877, f1883517
Not sure about the Antenati site. Can you help us? Would you recommend the church records or civil registration?
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It's sort of intuitive for me, so I didn't understand the question entirely when I read the post initially. Also, many Italian towns started using templates for civil records fairly early, so I didn't know if the question was related to language which DeepL could solve in that case. I've seen other's recommend BYU's Introduction to Italian Script:
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I've done extensive research in Bagheria, I would first use the Antenati site first for the years you are talking about 1855 / 1870.
These are the birth records for 1855. There are indexes that are at the end of these records (begins on pg 448) Once you find the name note the n-d'ordain number. You can than find the actual record.
https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/ark:/12657/an_ua414226/wbQyYEE
You're very lucky because there are Bagheria online church records available (through family search) that can take you back far. - Carl
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@SueBurnette I am hoping you saw @Harleynut97 comment. Very helpful. Thank you.
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Thank you all. I'm off on a hunt now.
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Hi,
If someone could translate this for me, too? Once I get the flow of the documents, I'll be able to go it on my own. Thanks again.
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I think maybe I posted this is the wrong place. This is a death notice, but I can't figure out if it's the husband or wife who died. Once again just trying to get the flow of the documents. Thanks SO much!
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The last document you posted is a death record for Vincenzo Orebello (Orobello) The person who died is usually the first name you see after the word morto. He was age 63 (anni Sessantatre). He was the widower of Margarita Sisbbona? He was born in Bagheria. Death date is April 9th, 1847. I always check any indexes you can find to help confirm the spelling of names. Often a different person records the index and sometimes has better handwriting.
His fathers name was Filippo Orebello (fu before any name means dead) His mother was Angela Brancato? (also dead). Hopefully some other members can confirm the spelling- Carl
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My guess is Probello and Bramato. The index also helps as it sorts the names by the first letter (at least that, not always completely) so Probello or Orobello should be easy to discern.
Another helpful thing is if you just search a (possible) name on the internet. If it's completely wrong then it might get corrected or doesn't give many results. That doesn't help of course if both variants are valid names, which unfortunately seems to be the case for all suggested names in this thread. However Lisbona (just one b) does show up many times, sisb(b)ona does not. That's of course no prove but a good indication. Even the official writers sometimes made mistakes (as indicated by completely crossed out records).
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The first record you posted is a baptism record for Giachino lo Iacono. He was baptized on January 2,1844, born on Jan 1st.
His father was Serafino lo Iacono and mother was Rosa d' Amaro. Both parents were age 26 at the time of birth.
This is a link to the civil record
https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/ark:/12657/an_ua414193/wEj2zVW
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@Fabian528 I thought it was Probello at first, but I checked the index and it was Orobello (under the o's). I think you are probably correct on the last name Lisbona
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Thank you all. SO helpful. Once I get the hang of reading this, it will get better. It always does.
So we're thinking that Sibbona is actually Lisbona?
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