Index to Death Duty Registers
I have found an index to the Death Duty Registers from England with an indexed record and image at Find my Past. I am posting the image of who may be my great great Grandfather, William Shaw. His wife was Eliza Rilatt Shaw who I believe is listed in this document. Is there a way to see more than this image. Is there a will or perhaps more information I can find about when William died or maybe a listing of his children?
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Can you please post a link to the record or, at least, provide a bit more information such as places and/or dates? The will is likely to be available but finding it depends on knowing more.
Regards
Graham Buckell
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Thanks, Do these URLs help? https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=BMD%2FD%2FDDUTY%2F832336 and https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=BMD%2FIR27%2F299%2F024&parentid=BMD%2FD%2FDDUTY%2F832336
I also included my search terms and results from Find My Past.
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Thank you for this. I tried the PCC wills without success. Probably the next place to go will be the Lincolnshire Archives.
Your search terms suggest he was born around 1799 and died around 1851 in Hundleby, Lincolnshre. Have you found the death record? Hundleby is in the Spilsby registration district. There were two William Shaws dying in Spilsby around that time.
Obviously the second one is not yours so the first looks likely. But his age is significantly different to your figure of around 51 or 52. Is this likely to be yours? If so, it is probably worth getting a copy of the death certificate.
I checked FMP burial records and the age 66 one died in Hundleby. The burial was in Spilsby.
My thinking is that you need to be sure that you have the right William Shaw before expending a lot of effort to find the will.
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Looking through the GRO death index from 1837, the first William Shaw dying in the Grantham district was the one in 1870 you have already identified. One cannot easily widen the search to Lincolnshire on the GRO so i tried a search on Free BMD between 1850 and 1861 coming up with 22 hits (including those with middle names). Of course FreeBMD does not give ages at death whereas the GRO does. I suggest looking up those on the Free BMD list on the GRO to see if any ages approximately match. You do not know his age precisely which does not help.
I tried FMP (which I suspect you have already done. I tried Lincolnshire burials which gave two results as follows
Neither is close and both list the person as living in the place of burial.
I also tried the England burials on FMP restricting to Lincolnshire (sometimes the England databases have records the county databases don't) with zero results.
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Thanks, for all you have done. I have checked prisoners and thought possibly he had taken on another wife and family but the occupation is never correct. The fact that Sawyer was listed as his occupation in the Kestevin militia, the 1831 census, on Eliza's death certificate and in a newspaper article of a child after his apparent death, I would think it would be easy to find a paper trail of him somewhere. When I saw the death duty register with the name of the executor looking like his wife's name I thought that might prove something. I have found the headstone of his wife but I have looked in close cemeteries and not found him. I have created a lot of other families with a William Shaw in them in the meantime. :)
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I just checked the Lincolnshire Archives website and they hold copies of the 1851 wills for both the William Shaw of Hundleby and that of Grantham, although the 1841 census record for wife Eliza and family indicates he may have died prior to that year, in spite of Eliza being shown (you have found) as being married in the 1851 census.
Obviously, your William may not have left a will, but you might wish to check these out, especially for place of residence.
This is a link providing contact details for Lincolnshire Archives: https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/archives
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Thought I'd carry on investigating but have found no matches for William in the 1841 or 1851 census. Unfortunately, I don't have access to images but I tried using "sawyer" as an occupation and got just one result: in Scotland!
If William was not in the family household, it is quite possible he is to be found in another county, working away from home - maybe not as far away as Scotland, though. I have conducted searches on the assumpion of a Lincolnshire birth, however - maybe, like Eliza he was not even born in the county.
The GRO index shows Eliza Shaw with a mother's maiden name RILEY (sounds a bit like RILATT) but that Susannah Ann Shaw was born illegitimately - to daughter Sarah, as you have found.
Disappointed I couldn't find anything more, although I often do come across individuals who disappear without trace after a certain event (birth of last child, census, etc.) and have learned to accept some identities / mysteries can never be solved.
Wish you well with this one - try different website, including Lincolnshire Archives, and you might yet get a breakthrough.
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Thank you so much for your efforts!!! I am always trying to find this family. I have ended up putting lots of other families together in the meantime hoping to sometime extend both William and Eliza's records further back.
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