Searching for my Father (nicola Carinci) brith town.
I remember my father saying that he had grown up in San Felice Circeo in Latina. But I cannot find any birth records for him in this town, believe he was born in May of 1895.
I believe my grandfathers' name was Salvatore Carinci and he lived at one time in the province of Frosinone but not positive and he owned a mill.
Any help/direciton/counsel that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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The civil records for San Felice Circeo are online for the period 1871-1910 on FamilySearch (see: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/819186). There are also marriages and deaths for 1930-1946 online on Antenati.
Unfortunately, I checked the births from 1892-1898 and there is no birth for a Nicola Carinci, though there are indeed people with that surname present in town, so you are on the right track.
Another source that exists is military records. The military service records of men born 1877-1914 in the entire district of Frosinone (which includes San Felice Circeo) are available online here: http://www.archiviodistatofrosinone.beniculturali.it/index.php?it/216/anni-ruoli-matricolari
If your father left Italy before reaching the age of military service, he won't be in the military records, but I searched 1892-1898 anyways.
Is your father the Nicola Caringi who married in 1919 in Massachussets, son of Salvatore and Costanza Malorzo?
If yes, then in the military records of men born 1894 (record number 63664), we have a brother Giuseppe Carinci son of Salvatore and Costanza Malorzo born 4 Jan 1893 in San Felice Circeo. This is his civil birth on 12 Feb 1893: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99CR-RVX?i=534&cat=819186 and this birth is proven correct using his marriage on 29 Oct 1934 which names both his parents: https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/detail-registry/?s_id=121180 page 14.
The mother is omitted from his birth record since his parents were unmarried. This situation is very common and happened when people married in church only. Church marriages were not recognized by law during this time period, and many people protested this by refusing to marry civilly. To punish this, civil officials would often mark the children of such couples as illegitimate, of unmarried or even unnamed parents, as happened here.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any birth record for your father Nicola in 1892-1898 or any mention of him in the military records. However, with the proof above, it's clear that your father's family was absolutely from the town of San Felice Circeo. Unfortunately, if your grandparents never married civilly, only in church, their marriage record will not be locatable. You can still search from 1893 onwards, as they may have decided to marry civilly later in life. You can also try to find their deaths from 1893 onwards. However, if all else fails, there may eventually be no choice but to consult church records on-site in San Felice Circeo to pursue this line further into the past. Definitely study the civil records that are online for any and all clues that may be helpful in figuring out why Nicola's birth appears to be absent.
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Fantastic help, and right on as far as the town.. now I have to find out how to search other years and church records. 😊😃
Nick...
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In the end, using the civil marriage of the parents, everything fell into place including the missing Nicola Carinci. It turns out Nicola was registered as being to unnamed parents, born 20 May 1895, and given the surname Legnite but was legitimized by his parents' marriage on 3 Sep 1901.
Civil marriage of Salvatore Carinci + Costanza Malorzo: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89CR-P2FR
Birth of Nicola Luigi: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89CR-RS7Y?cat=819186
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