Possible baptism record for g-grandfather only shows a mother's name?

Mary Kozak

Antonius Laditsch, 22 Aug 1855 Ujfalu, Sopron Hungary. Record shows a mother, does that mean he was illegitimate. Not sure about the translation for the information on the record.

 

"Hungary, Catholic Church Records, 1636-1895," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZL7-PK2 : 18 February 2021), Antonius Laditsch, 22 Aug 1855, Baptism; citing Ujfalu, Sopron, Hungary, Tolna Megyei Leveltar (National Archives), Budapest; FHL microfilm 700,800.

Robert Seal_1

Yes, Antonius is illegitimate.

 

Here is a translation of the record:

 

Number: 14.

 

Year and day of birth: 1855 August 22.

 

Year and day of baptism: 1855 August 22.

 

Name of the child: Antonius.

 

Gender -- Male/Female: male ["1" marked in the "Male" column].

 

Legitimate/Illegitimate: illegitimate ["1" marked in the "Illegitimate" column].

 

Name of parents, their condition, and religion: Rosalia Laditsch, unmarried/single, Roman Catholic.

 

Residence and house number: Neufeld, no. 4.

 

Name of godparents, their condition, and religion: Maria Steiger, unmarried/single, Roman Catholic.

 

Name of the baptizing cleric: "Idem" = the same [as written above] = Martinus Lasky____?

 

Observations: [blank].

Mary Kozak

Thanks for your quick help 😉

Robert Seal_1

You're welcome, Mary!

LegacyUser

Thanks Robert!

Mary Kozak

Relating to the above baptism, is it likely that Laditsch would be Rosalia’s maiden name? Also would sponsor, Maria Steiger, be her maiden name and might Rosalia and Maria be related? Thanks , Mary

Julia Szent-Györgyi

Yes, they're definitely maiden names. Two reasons for the certainty: one, they're indicated to be single/unmarried (coelebs), so they have no married names; and two, any surname with a woman's given name was *her* name, not her husband's. A woman's married name was "Mrs. HisGiven HisFamily". You didn't just substitute her given name for his in that construction.

Robert Seal_1

Laditsch is the mother's maiden name.

 

Steiger is the godmother's maiden name.

 

There is no way of telling if these two people are related are not.

Mary Kozak

Would a single woman have raised a child then? I wonder because my g-grandfather immigration papers indicate he was from Dalmatia. Though he considered himself Austrian and spoke German according to his son. And we were told he lived in Trieste and most likely left from Fiume if the passenger list is correct.