Anyone have experience beyond Ancestry or Familysearch in Czech records? Trying to find Albin (Peter
Reichenberger Zeitung, 1933, references his gaining his law degree.
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Possibly check the Portafontium archives: http://www.portafontium.eu/searching/all?search_api_views_fulltext_1=Karlovy+Vary&search_api_views_fulltext_2=&search_api_aggregation_3=&field_doc_dates_field_doc_dates_from=
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I'd be happy to point you in the right direction. So the Karlsbad area records are in the Pilsen Archive. If you go here: http://www.portafontium.eu/searching/register, and type "Drahowitz" in the box at the top of the page that says Misto (place), it will bring up a list of all the digitized baptism, marriage, and burial register books that contain any records from Drahowitz. In my experience, 99% of my ethnic German Bohemian ancestors have been Catholic, so if it were me I would skip down the list of books past the Evangelical books (which are usually at the top of the list), and I usually also go past the books titled "standesamt" (registry office) or "okresní úřad" (district office), and I start with the remaining books on the list (the Catholic records). Although you may want to go back & check those other books in the case that you aren't able to find your ancestors in the Catholic registers, I have found that almost all of my ancestors have been in the Catholic books, and I've never found any of them when searching in the Evangelical books).
So in this instance, you would scroll down until you find a book containing birth records in 1908. You will see the list of books shows each book's title on the left, then a list of all the towns contained in the book in the center, and to the right of that it lists the dates of the book with a little symbol next to each set of dates. You will see 3 symbols: *, oo, and +. * indicates a book that contains birth records, oo indicates marriage records, and + indicates death records. You may sometimes also see *i, ooi, or +i, and that just means that the book also contains an index for those specific records. (Oh, and note that the books are not always listed chronologically, so make sure to take a look through the whole list if you don't find the book for the time period you're looking for at first). So when you scroll down the list looking for births in 1908, you will find the book titled "Karlovy Vary 098," which contains the birth records for Drahowitz between 1899 & 1922. Click on the book title, and then on the next page click on the little images of the scanned book pages to be able to view each page of the book. This book happens to have an index, so it will probably be easiest to take a look in the index first (the index is often located at the back of the book, but not always). Just keep in mind that the indexes are good resources, but not always perfect -- although every record in the book should be listed in the index, we have found instances where someone was omitted from the index but we did end up finding their record in the book -- so it's always worth double checking in the actual records and not solely relying on the indexes.
Anyway, that should get you started. Take a look and see what you can find. These Catholic Bohemian records contain a wealth of information, especially in these later years. Feel free to reach out if you need help translating the records you find. Good luck!
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Thank you so much! The various scans looked overwhelming, even with your excellent advice, but I found him with your help!
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Good job! There is even a wedding date by the parent's info (has cop by it). This writing is really nice. Do you have a link to the record? Learn old German Script Webinars
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Thanks Stephanie Bradshaw for all the help you have been the past week!
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Can anyone read what is written below the entry for religion for Albin Heidl? There appears to be a date of 10.3.1942 added sometime later? Could it be "standesamt getraut" meaning a wedding date?
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So I am guessing it is a wedding date that took place in Hohenelbe/Vrchlabí? If I am reading that correctly, where would I find wedding records for that region? Thanks again for everyone's help--
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I need a link so I can blow it up. Under the father's info there is [cop 15 Jun 1891] copulieren to marry which means that it probably is in the same parish which is the parents marriage date. Look in the surrounding pages for more children because with that wedding date there are probably more children.
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Yes the date at the bottom which is too small for me to read is most likely his wedding date. Please send a link so I can verify.
Betseylee
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Use www.genteam.at as your gazatteer. It is a free site but you must register. You can type the beginning of your village or city in the search box and it will come up with possibilities. Click on the page icon once you find your village and it has a link to the archives.
Betseylee Browning
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Detail View: Gazetteer of Austrian, Czech, Slovak and Slovenian Republic
No.14365 Place Name:Vrchlabi
Former Place Name:Hohenelbe
Place Name German:Place Name Hungarian:Place Name Slovak:Place Name Ukrainian:
Judicial District:VrchlabiCrown Land:Böhmen
Begin of Vital StatisticsRespective Archives
Competent Parish - Roman Catholic: Vrchlabi1653/1653/1703Samrsk
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Good job, I'm so glad you find it!
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Hohenelbe looks right. GenTeam is a great resource to look up towns and to find out which archive contains the records for each town so you know where to look next. I don't have any personal experience searching on the Zámrsk Archive website, but this video should explain how to get started: https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/292. If you end up finding that you have more ancestors with records in other Czech archives, there are also links to additional videos for the different archive websites in the menu on the left side of that page.
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Thank you everyone. Unfortunately the marriage records there end in 1941--why I'm not certain (destroyed?). I'll try to contact them directly to see what they say.
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It is probably a right of privacy problem and you could write them to see if they would let you have them.
You could work on the generations mentioned in your record. There are three generations in this record.
born 7 Aug 1908 , Christened 13 Aug 1908 Drahowitz house 146
Albin
Catholic, male, legitimate, son of Heidl Lorenz Occupation, in Drahowitz born 1/ 1859 in Kumeraü, __ legitimate son of Wenzl Heidl Wirtschafsbesitzer in Kumeraü and Barbara born Friass from Lusekin [Cop 15/6/1891], Mother Anna born Sommer born 12/2 1868 in Taschwitz legitimate daughter of Wenzel Sommer Häus in Tashwitz and Theresia born Dörr from Pergles
Betseylee
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The N 10/42 might be a house number.
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Thank you. That had not crossed my mind. Are there centralized census records for Bohemia?
--Patrick
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This is the only place I know you can find some census records but they are not indexed so you need to use the browse option. They are arranged by house number.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1930345 Census images and inhabitant registers for the Czech Republic. Currently includes only those for Northern Bohemia housed in the regional archive of Litoměřice, for Eastern Bohemia housed in the district archive of Trutnov, for Southern Bohemia housed in the regional archive of Třeboň, for Southern Moravia housed in the regional archive in Brno, and for Northern Moravia and Silesia housed in the regional archive of Opava. Also includes images and indexed records for the Zámrsk area taken from the Zámrsk Archive. The inhabitant registers may be grouped in year ranges by locality.
Betseylee
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As you suggested I have contacted the archives directly. Thank you again for your help--
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Yes, that’s correct. In the case of some of my more recent Bohemian ancestors, we have found that the majority of the records are kept in the archive, while the most recent register books were kept in the local town hall. In our case, that meant that even some records in the late 1800s weren’t accessible online or at the archives, just because they were included in the same book with the more current records. We were able to go to the town hall and give them specific details about our direct ancestors, and they allowed us to snap a photo of the pages with those ancestors’ records. So even if you aren’t able to visit in person, it would probably be worth finding out where the more recent books are located, and sending an email (or a letter) seeing if you can request copies. I believe that for the most recent records they will be more strict, wanting you to provide specific details about the ancestors and provide your relationship to them, but hopefully with that information they will send you copies of the records (you will likely need to pay for the copies). Good luck!
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