Attaching records to my tree
When I'm attaching records to my CET tree, everything works fine. But it got me to wondering, when this is all up and running and the tree 2 tree options happen, is the main world tree going to be effected if we attach sources to our own personal trees? Or will the sources be able to be reused? Cause in the main tree, you can only use a source on one person and have to detach it if it's added to the wrong person. I hope this makes sense.
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@SumnerTamara thank you very much for testing the early release of CET. After Tree2Tree launches, information and sources can be copied from one tree to the other in a format similar to SourceLinker. Since the two trees are different with distinct PID's, SourceLinker will not prevent a source from being attached to both persons,. Again, thank you for testing CET and offering feedback.
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'… in the main tree, you can only use a source on one person …' This is not correct - if you save a source to your Source Box, you can add it to as many profiles/relationships as you like.
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Mandy,
Please note that for indexed records, where the persons have been identified, a person in the record is attached to a person in the tree. Attaching an indexed record person to a tree person is = to stating “This person in this record is the same real historical person as this tree person “. Since FamilyTree “should” ideally have one and only one representation for each real historical person who lived - a single person to person attachment is ideal. If two tree people exist for one real person within a tree they should be merged.For unindexed images or “World” sources that a user creates, there is not rich person data. In this case there may, or may not, be multiple persons represented in the source. Making multiple attachments makes sense and is necessary.
Having the same person represented in different trees is acceptable and expected. These are not referred to as duplicates and there is never any merging of persons across trees. Therefore Bob in the 1950 census can be linked to Bob in different trees without a problem and SourceLinker should not alert to nor prohibit these cross tree links of a record person. They can be reused across trees. Additionally, the conclusions you make in your tree about which record persons match your tree person have no impact on other user’s conclusions in any other tree.1 -
I get that, but many sources (1790 US census etc.) do not identify everyone concerned but are still in my view worth attaching to the other family members where the numbers and ages make it clear there is a sensible match (with careful Source notes to make the situation clear). And the system itself does /not/ prevent the same source being present on multiple profiles/relationships if such attachments make logical sense.
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@SumnerTamara please read the response by @Robert Kehrer. He is most accurate and correct and understands CET thoroughly. After Tree2Tree is fully in production, each person in each tree will be a unique PID and a single source will be able to attach that source to each PID in each tree for a given person. Once, again, thanks for your feedback. If you have any further issues and comments, please don't hesitate to post them.
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Mandy,
The scenario you mention is addressed in my 3rd paragraph. You are absolutely correct, unindexed images and “world” sources, which do not have each record persona identified in the indexed data, would need to be connected to multiple tree people/profiles and the system allows that.
In answer to SummerTamara though, attachments in one tree should have no affect on attachments in any other tree.
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I think what the original poster may be saying is that if 5,000 users want to attach a record in the main tree to their CET tree, the system should not prevent it and should allow it. There should be no notification or note of it in the main tree. It should be prevented from even being seen as attached to the CET trees. Anyway, if the original poster didn't mean that, I think that is an important way for it to be. If 5,000 decendents attach a record to their CET, it should not show up in the main tree, but each should get to keep that attached to their CET tree forever, nobody having the right to detach it unless they have those permissions.
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@MrsLCJ Each CET will be "owned" by the user that created it. That CET can be changed only by those persons invited by the owner. The CET may be made up of nonrelated persons. If 5,000 CET owners each attach the birth record of John Doe as a source to their CET, that source will remain on their respective CET. The only path to attach that same birth record of John Doe to the FamilySearch Tree is for a user to expressly do that. No notation will be made on the FST of any CET user. The two trees are separate and distinct and will remain that way. A user must access each tree to make a change to that tree.
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Thank you. My question has been answered. @MandyShaw1 What I meant in my original post was say I was to attach a 1910 Census to my Great Grandfather in the FST. Currenly, if someone else came along and created another profile for my Great Grandfather, or somebody they thought was him, they couldn't use that same 1910 Census for his profile on the FST. So what I was asking was if I attached something like the 1910 Census to my Great Grandfather on the CET tree that I created, would that effect the FST when Tree2Tree is up and running? The answer seems to be No that wouldn't effect it, which is a good thing. I know you can attach the same record to everyone in the Census, but I meant attaching it to the same person in multiple trees. So it shouldn't even effect others if they were also researching my Great Grandfather and wanted to attach the same record to him in their own CET from what I'm gathering.
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@SumnerTamara you are correct. Thank you for your feedback. It helps the engineering team know what the users are thinking so that it can be better explained or presented another way.
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