Question on a 1821 Marriage record from Biskirchen, Hessen

Bonnie Weisel

Nordrhein-Westfalen / Archiv der Evangelischen Kirche im Rheinland / Biskirchen
Taufen 1809-1814, Eheschließungen 1774-1829, Sterbefälle 1731-1814, Konfirmationen 1775-1826, Bemerkungen 1776-1834
https://www.archion.de/en/viewer/churchRegister/271097
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On December 26, 1821 Valentin Konold, a hammerschmidtmeister, married Ernestina Fÿscher, the daughter of Christian Lüdwig Fÿscher. What I can't translate is what comes after "aus' and "auf dem" for Valentin. I have been unable to find a birth location for Valentin or where he was resident when he married.

Ulrich Neitzel

@Bonnie Weisel

The words after Valentin Konold are "Hammerschmiedmeister aus Hirzenhain(?) gebürtig, angestellt auf dem Hammerwerke Schellnhausen", meaning "master hammersmith born in Hirzenhain(?), employed at the hammerworks in Schellnhausen".

I am not fully sure about Hirzenhain ( https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10802129 ), but this is a place in Hesse not too far (~40 km) from Schellnhausen ( https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20703088 ).

For the hammerworks of Schellnhausen see this page: https://www.feldatal.de/tourismus/denkmale-geotope-naturdenkmale/muehlen/der-eisenhammer-von-schellnhausen/ (in German, please translate with your browser's translate function or DeepL: https://www.deepl.com/en/translator

Robert Seal_1

Hello @Bonnie Weisel,

This is what I read following "auf" and "auf dem":

auf Hirzenhain gebürtig = native of Hirzenhhain

angestellt auf dem Hammerwerke Schellhaussen = employed at the Schellnhaussen hammer mill

Comments: Here is the link for Hirzenhain from Meyers Gazetteer: https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10803001 Hirzenhain is approximately 19 miles north of Biskirchen.

JohnsonGreg

The second part says he is an employee at the hammermill in Schellnhausen. This article mentions a hammermill being built there is 1779.

https://encyclopedia.homes/wiki/Buderus

https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20703088

I think the first says he was born in

https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10802129

or

https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10803001

which is closer.

JohnsonGreg

There is an 1811 marriage record in Hirzenhain in Kreis Büdingen (https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10802129) for his purported brother, Johann Friederich Konold GQB7-4PD:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPFJ-KGFB

Bonnie Weisel

Thanks so much for the translation and information. If the gebürtig equates to geboren then yes, Valentin was very likely born in Hirzenhain, Kreis Büdingen, Hessen about 1794. I can't verify it positively because to view the pre-1808 Hirzenhain church records I need to visit a Family History Center. But 2 of his older siblings were married in Hirzenhain and his parents died in Hirzenhain.

Note - the Konold family, an uncommon surname, originates in Königsbronn, Baden-Württemberg, the site of the first ironworks enterprise in Germany. "Hüttenwerke Königsbronn – HWK 1365, the oldest industrial entreprise in Germany, goes public".

Bonnie

StH31

Both gebürtig and geboren originate in the noun Geburt. Gebürtig is the more formal term and in use in German-speaking countries to this day.