Translation request for Brides fathers name - Is it Claus Hinrich or perhaps Hinrich Kahrs?

Margaret5536

Anna Margaretha Kahrs (9ZQB-31V) father on her baptism is Hinrich Kahrs. On a potential marriage record on April 13, 1804 in Rotenburg, the father is listed as Claus Hinrich which is coincidentally the name of her new husband, Claus Hinrich Holsten, and her father-in-law. I've reviewed the actual record but am not able to understand it. If it was transcribed in error - it could be her marriage record. If not, its a different person. Thanks!

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7S-C2X1?cc=3015626&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPXB-RH6H

JohnsonGreg

In the 1804 marriage record her father is given as the deceased Claus Hinrich, a hausling from Bittstedt. In this record the scribe enters the surname as part of the full name for each of the marrying couple but only gives the forenames for the fathers of the couple.

corrected link:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7S-C2X1?cc=3015626

You may have noticed that the familysearch ID for Hinrich Kahrs, father of Anna Margaretha Kahrs (9ZQB-31V), is actually a combination of at least two different Hinrich Kahrs.

The baptism record for Anna Margaretha Kahrs b 15 Sep 1779 gives her parents as Hinrich Kahrs, hausmann from Reßum and Becke nee Kahrs.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7S-C273?cc=3015626&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPX1-M32B

The marriage record 11 Nov 1774 for her parents, Hinrich Kahrs and Becke Kahrs, says both have the surname Kahrs and both have fathers named Johann from Reßum.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61007/images/1189546-01255?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=215a251e-e642-46d9-a2af-186976fa01dc&usePUB=true&_phsrc=xWz5012&_phstart=successSource&pId=1234691

Becke (Rebeca) Kahrs death record 22 Aug 1824 says she is the 76 year old widow of the deceased hausmann, Hinrich Kahr from Reßum.

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1034299%3A61007?tid=&pid=&queryId=f411ce2b-b61c-4324-a8ec-495f396f1ec4&_phsrc=xWz5032&_phstart=successSource

Reßum and Bittstedt are very close to each other and both in the Groß Sottrum parish so there is the possibility that you have found the correct marriage record. However, none of the other records for Hinrich Kahrs use the forename Claus and his wife's death record implies he died in Reßum rather than Bittstedt. This could be a scribes error or a rarely used forename (I haven't found his baptism record) or it could be that these are different people. Maybe if you can find Hinrich's death and birth records it will help clarify. Most of these records have misindexed the surname Kahrs so it can be quite difficult to find them.

https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10182046

The record links I've attached are from Ancestry but if you don't have an account with them I think you can still view them online at your local Family History Library.

JohnsonGreg

The 13 April, 1804 marriage record might also be for this Anna Margaretha Kahrs, born 21 Nov 1778 to Claus Hinrich Kahrs hausling from "Bitste" (possibly Bittstedt since this is recorded in the Groß Sottrum parish records).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7S-C24W?cc=3015626&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPX1-HV1W

Edit to add:

The Anna Margarthe Kahrs born in 1779 to Hinrich Kahrs, hausling from Reßum died at age 4 1/2 on 4 March 1784 so there will be no marriage record for her:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7S-C27H?cc=3015626&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPX1-756X

Coincidentally, the Claus Hinrich Kahrs from "Bitste" died 7 Mar 1784. His death is recorded just below Anna Margarthe's death record.

So the Anna Margarethe Kahr who married Claus Hinrich Holsten is incorrectly attached to Hinrich Kahrs and Becke Kahrs and is not their daughter.

Margaret5536

Thanks for the great info. I go slowly when working with non US locations since I have no personal location reference to go and refer to Google. When working on her records I do get FamilySearch cautions. I will need to go very slowly and cautiously to make updates. If someone can easily Detach or correct I am good with that too. I do have Ancestry so I'll be able to see the records. Its definitely a confusing situation and I really try to avoid adding errors on top of errors. Thanks again!