help with translation.

susan herceg

I basically think this names the husband and wife and date of marriage, But not sure.

Julia Szent-Györgyi

Susan, both of your posts today are essentially blank: there's no link or image or anything else to indicate what it is that you're trying to ask about.

(Images/attachments still don't work in the Community currently, so it'll have to be links. Be sure to use the first button on the menu bar that appears: "display as text".)

susan herceg

So you cannot drag an image into this box?

Julia Szent-Györgyi

I cannot drag an image onto this page, no. I think that's completely independent of the current problems with the interface: that's not how they meant this website to work. I've always done copy-and-paste here, not drag-and-drop.

Christopher Kovach_1

Here is the link:https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3A6JB9-B39N

Julia Szent-Györgyi

I can't imagine by what feat of ESP @Christopher Kovach_1 divined that (slightly mangled) URL, but gift horses etc.

Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6JB9-B39N

Number 745.
Death: Szombathely, 19 August 1971.
Deceased: Mrs. János Kovács Rozália Herczeg, female, married, occupation -, residence Kőszeg, Erdő-utca [Forest-street] 6.
Birthplace: Bejcz, 7 February 1894; parents: Sándor Herczeg, Rozália Szummer.
Spouse: János Kovács, marriage: Kőszeg, 1914.
Cause of death: circulatory insufficiency.
Entered: 22 August 1971, Mrs. János Fehér, registrar.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RK5-T3L?i=116

Number 31. Kőszeg, 4 Oct 1914.
Groom: János Kovács, day-laborer, R.Cath., born 15 March 1892, res. Kőszeg, vásártér [market square] 5.
Parents: János Kovács, Teréz Tóth.
Bride: Rozália Herczeg, housemaid, R.Cath., born 7 Feb. 1894, res. Kőszeg, vásártér 5.
Parents: József Herczeg, Rozália Szummer.
Witnesses: Károly Németh, Kőszeg; István Németh, Kőszeg.

Birth/baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-MC9D-15

1894
Number 12. Born 7, baptized 8 Feb.
Child: Rozália, female, legitimate
Parents: József Herczeg day-laborer, Rozália Szummer, Roman Catholics.
Residence: Bejcz, Egervölgy, Bejcz. [I haven't figured out why, but all of the entries list three places in this column.]
Godparents: Antal Sőre farmer, Rozália Sulyok
Officiant: the same [Kovács, parson]
Observations: Entered into marriage with János Kovács in Kőszeg on 4 Oct 1914.

susan herceg

Thank you both so much!! I have been looking for Rozalia for a long time. If only I could find information on her mother’s birth location. Her mother and father immigrated to the States but she stayed behind-the only child to do so. I know her grandparents were Jozsef Herczeg (1826-?) and Julianna Zsoldos (1825-1903). I figured Jozsef stayed in Hungary til his mother died and then left for the US in 1905 to find work. The rest of the family came in1908. how did you find Rozalia’s marriage and christening records? All I could find was her death certificate!

LaRue Turner

The upload image icon is gone. I wonder if it's coming back?

susan herceg

All taken care of. I did get it translated but thanks!

Julia Szent-Györgyi

Susan asked: "how did you find Rozalia’s marriage and christening records?"

The marriage I found by browsing. (I went looking for it because I couldn't make heads or tails of Rozália's mother's surname.) From the death registration's index detail page (that Christopher linked), I went to the image (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R2S-H9X?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6JB9-B39N&action=view), went to the waypointed (old) viewer by deleting the question mark and everything after it from the URL (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R2S-H9X?i=402), and then used the marriage place (Kőszeg) and year (1914) from the death record to navigate to the right waypoint: I clicked Vas, scrolled down and clicked on Kőszeg, then found and clicked on "Marriages 1910-1923". Random poking revealed that image 100 was late 1913, so I just browsed image by image from there until I found Rozalia as the bride at the top of image 117.

(I notice now that the marriage record actually says "Szammer". I guess my fingers autocorrected that to "Szummer".)

The baptism I found by searching indexed records. (Pre-1895 Roman Catholic baptisms in Hungary are nearly all indexed on FS.) I started by looking up Bejcz in a gazetteer (https://web.archive.org/web/20160331195657/http://www.radixhub.com/radixhub/gazetteers/1877/vas.htm) to find out that the RC church was in Nyögér. Because the autostandardizer has rendered indexed place fields unusable, I looked up Nyögér in the Catalog (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/401888), and used the magnifying glass icon on the "Kereszteltek, halottak 1870-1895" ("Baptisms, deaths") line, put Rozalia in the "First Names" field and Jozsef in the "Father's First Name" field, and filtered the results to births in the 1890s (https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=100&q.fatherGivenName=Jozsef&q.filmNumber=4610758&q.givenName=Rozalia&c.birthLikeDate1=on&f.birthLikeDate0=1800&f.birthLikeDate1=1800~1890). Exactly one of the 15 matches had Herczeg for the surname, and it was the correct year. (The mother's surname is badly misindexed: they somehow saw it as "Kurucz". I still don't trust the index editor not to lose edited entries, so I haven't corrected it.)

susan herceg

Thank you so much