Help finding where Anders Vilhelm Hellqvist moved to
Anders Vilhelm Hellqvist, born 11 January 1857 in Husby-Rekarne, is living in Hillstamon, Skönsmon, Västernorrland in 1894-1900. He is shown as moving to Obef.? in 1900. This is book AIIa:1 page 13. I don't know where this place is that he moved to. Please help me find where he went.
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Obef. (obefordrad?) probably indicates that it wasn't known where he went to.
The Swedish Deathbook 1860-2017 lists an Anders Wilhelm Hellqvist who is born 10 Jan 1857 (place unknown) on 26 December 1894 in Sundsvalls Stad, Västernorrland. His death record is here (entry #203): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0034095_00055#?c=&m=&s=&cv=54&xywh=254%2C3269%2C2030%2C1081. It appears his birthdate is calculated from his age at death (37 years, 11 months and 16 days) which could easily be off 1 day.
I am attaching a screenshot of the Swedish Deathbook search and results.
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"Obef." means obefintlig = non-existent, absent. It means that he was not there anymore when this remark was entered and it was unknown where he moved to.
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@Ulrich Neitzel Thank you-that is very helpful! I will add "Obef. = obefintlig = non-existent, absent" to the list of Sweden Abbreviations in Family History Sources.
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Thank you so much. I was asked to take a look at this family and this is the only child who hasn't been followed and vitals completed. Is there any other information on this death record that would help me tell his story better? The last name doesn't actually look like it says Hellqvist but Hillkvert. Though other details seem to match. It looks like he was buried 6 June 1895 but it could be January which would make more sense. He does not appear on page 675 in the Sundsvalls parish book. In the clerical record I first put on it seems to show that he has a military number. Am I reading that correctly?
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The last name is written Hellkvist here which is an alternative spelling of Hellqvist. Compare "st" to Kristina one line above.
After his name it says in brackets: fr[ån] Haffners(?) i Skön
Skön is a parish about 7 km north of Sundsvall. Not sure what "Haffners" means.
It the rightmost column it says: avis till Skön 6 Jan 95 (notice to Skön), and avis återkommen 16 Jan 95 (notice returned). So he was possibly not registered in Skön either.
The column before refers to the Inflyttningsbok No. 675. There he is found as the last entry for 1894, probably made after his death. No parish of origin is given, only a reference to the death record No. 203.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0018055_00079
The given cause of death is typhoid fever; he died in the hospital (död å Lasarettet). Burial was on 6 Jan 1895.
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The last place that I actually have record of him living is Hillstamon, Skönsmon, Västernorrland. When he moved here the record stated that he was moving to Skön even though it was really Skönsmon. That record also has the in the notes saying death with a question mark. It seems that there was some notification to that parish that he had died.
Thank you for helping me connect the records.
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Regarding the confusion Skön/Skönsmon see this description of the history of Skönsmon parish (on https://sok.riksarkivet.se/kyrkoarkiv?Arkivsok=&Lan=V%C3%A4sternorrlands+l%C3%A4n&Arkiv=SE%2FHLA%2F1010181&Serie=0&PageSize=100):
Skönsmon parish was separated from Sköns parish (the part of the parish located south of Sundsvallsfjärden) on June 22, 1883 and re-incorporated on January 1, 1892. Skönsmon was broken out again on April 26, 1905. The parish has its own house interrogation lists (or clerical records) starting in 1883 while other church books start in 1890. For the time before, please refer to Skön's church archives. There are also other documents in Skön's church archives.
I found Anders Wilhelm Hellquist in these Skönsmon records which I don't know if you have already
Moving-in record #97:
Clerical record 1883-1893:
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Thank you for sharing the bit of history. It is always help to know how the places have changed over time.
I do have that record. Thankfully I have been able to find most of the information about him.
There is one last thing I am trying to check out. 20 June 1886 Anders Vilhelm Hellqvist married Lovisa Söderman Karlsdotter in Östersunds, Jämtlund. She then dies 9 June 1890 in the same place. I have been looking to see if she by chance had any children during this time. Is there anything I have missed on the records about that.
death record.
Clerical survey
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There is no indication in this records that they had a child. It should be noted in the clerical surevey which covers the whole period 1886-1895.
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Ok. Glad I haven't missed it. Also if I am reading it correctly Lovisa was born in Finland. Can you help me find the place where she was born?
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The image is rather unsharp. It looks like the place could end with -saari. Do you have access to ArkivDigital? They may have a better quality copy.
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The closest I have at home is Ancestry. When I get back to the center I can get the color image if this doesn't work.
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I remembered another place I could get color image. I hope this one is more helpful.
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Here it looks like the place name starts with "Musta-", but the ending looks different. I couldn't find any parish in Finland that starts with "Musta-", but I am not an expert. I'll flag @Heidi Kuosmanen who may know better how to solve this.
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Hi, the place is Mustasaari in Finnish. But as you said that you cannot find any parish starting with Musta-, you are right. Because Mustasaari is mainly Swedish speaking parish, it's parish records are with it's Swedish name Korsholm.
Finland is bilangual and several parishes on the western and southern coast are mainly Swedish speaking and also the place names are in Swedish.
I looked the Korsholm (Mustasaari) birth records and Lovisa was not born in that parish on that day, 7 Oct 1861.
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I looked more into this. The screenshot which you shared, notes that Lovisa moved from Portöm (Pirttikylä), Finland at 10 Nov 1885.
I found her family from Portöm. Lovisa worked as a servant for a year (1879-1880) in Mustasaari and that has most likely caused a wrong birth place information to be added on her moving out certificate.
Lovisa was actually born in Malax (Maalahti): Malax församlings arkiv - Längder över födda och döpta 1846-1879, jakso 126, sivu 247-248: 1861 Sep-Oct; Kansallisarkisto: https://astia.narc.fi/uusiastia/viewer/?fileId=5834742940&aineistoId=1282730622
The family moved from Solf to Malax at 1860 and from Malax to Portöm at 1873: Malax församlings arkiv - Kommunionbok 1857-1863, jakso 365, sivu 361: Yttermalax No 10 Kull; Kansallisarkisto: https://astia.narc.fi/uusiastia/viewer/?fileId=5834623946&aineistoId=1282475687
It seams that Lovisa's father was from Sweden.
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The information you share about Sköns and Skönsmon is there a way to put this on the FamilySearch Sweden Parish wiki pages? It would be really helpful to have this insight for others.
Also thank you for tagging Heidi. She was a great help.
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Thank you so much for your help. I would love to see a section on the Sweden FamilySearch Wiki page about Swedish Colonies outside of Sweden. I have run into this once before and though I was able to find some information on the Finland FamilySearch Wiki it would be helpful to something more complete.
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FS Wiki has good list of Finnish parishes and from there you can find both Finnish and Swedish names for them: https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Finland_Parish_List
There is also very important to understand the meaning of word parish. In English and in FS parish is used both for civil parish and church parish. In Finnish they are different, civil parish is pitäjä (socken in Swedish) and church parish is seurakunta (församling in Swedish). Before 1865 civil parish and church parish were almost same thing in most of Finland but in eastern Finland several civil parishes had two church parishes on their are, Lutheran and Orthodox. Also some church parishes were on the area of two or even three counties and civil parishes. Then many civil parishes were at first chapel parishes under bigger church parish. On these chapel parishes, some church records might be found among the mother church parish. When chapel parish got it's independence, it also formed a civil parish almost at the same time. If you use only church records to do family history research, then you don't need to care about civil parishes very much, but if you need to use other sources, like tax or land records, then then civil parishes are vital to know.
Finland has never been a colony to any country. Roughly from 1300 it was part of Sweden until beginning of 1800 Russian invaded again to Finland and got it from Sweden. Under Russian time Finland had autonomic status.
With Sweden we Finnish people have a kind of wierd love-hate relationship, but to Russia we have mainly hate. Russian people have destroyed Finland so much and with today's definition we can say that Russian caused a genocide in Finland at the beginning of 1700. One third of Finnish population were killed directly by Russian, taken into slavery to Russia or indirectly killed by deceases caused by the war and famine.
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Thank you so much for all the history details. The hardest part of research is understanding the culture and how things fit together. Thank you for pointing me in the correct direction and giving me a greater understanding. I am sure my research will take me this way again and I feel a little better prepared when it does.
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