Help transcribing Danish baptism record

KSHansen

Haven't received any responses in the Danmark group, so trying here.

Please help me transcribe the underlined portion under the Faddernes column in the baptism record at the top of the page, number 260, Johannes August Edvard Jensen, born 1st December 1895.

Here is a link to the Danish National Archives. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125720#167740,28162513

Mand er arrested 15. Aug 1894.

Jf. Skriv. paa Ministeret for Kirke og [Undervisnings?] af 1/4 1896 paa er dato 

[Assaldet], [at?] [?] Barns fødsel og Daab er [telført?] Kirkebogen [han?] [sel?] [?]ling.

OR>> Jf. Skriv. Fra Ministeret for Kirke og [Undervisnings?] af 1/4 1896 paa er dato

[Assaldet], [at?] [aftskrift?] Barns fødsel og Daab er [tilført?] Kirkebogen [som?] [?org??? jel?] [fetterling?]

Thank you.

Niels Just Rasmussen

I can't discern what it says more than you, but from the underlined parts it is likely that the "udlagt barnefader blikkenslagersvend Johan Eduard Berg Hansen" under "parents" was the important part added.

So likely Johan Eduard Berg was declared as the biological father 1/4 1896 -> whether he accepted that or went to trial we can't see here.

It also seems to say "manden arresteret 15. August 1894" -> this must be the original man listed "sliber Peter Ditlev Petersen"?!

Niels Just Rasmussen

Peter Ditlev Jensen is some career criminal.

Here is he in Horsens Statsfængsel from 1900-1903.

Source (page 183): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21804474#417753,76719889

He has numerous arrests spanning from 1880-1900 for theft [tyveri] and begging [betleri], so his 1900-1903 prison sentence is for theft and his 30th punishment.

The 18. October 1894 to 25. februar 1896 he was also in prison in Horsens Statsfængsel for theft!

"Ægte født. Efter løsladelse herfra den 25. Februar 1896 tog Fgn [= Fangen = Prisoner] til Randers, hvor han boede sammen med hustruen og ernærede sig ved Fiskehandel. I August 1896 blev han ?imidlertid? separeret fra Hustruen på Grund af dennes Ægteskabsbrud, og siden har han ernæret sig til dels ved sliberi og til dels ved tilfældigt arbejde på Landet."

[True born. Efter being released from here the 25th February 1896 the prisoner went to Randers where he lived with his wife and worked in the fish retail. In August 1896 he was separated from his wife, because of her "marital breaking" [unfaithfulness] og since then he as partly worked as a grinder/sharpener and partly took casual labour in the countryside.

Here he is in Horsens Statsfængsel 1894-1896.

We learned he was an glarmester- [glazier-]apprentice for 4 years after his confirmation and that he got married in 1892. He was living in Aarhus in 1894 wen he got arrested.

Source (page 145, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21804474#417751,76719111

KSHansen

Mange Tak Niels!

Yes, I understood the record to mean that Johan Edvard BERG was the “udlagt barnefader” of Johannes August Edvard JENSEN. 

I did not understand that the ¼ 1896 date meant that was when he was declared the “barnefader”.

I also took the “Mand er arrested 15.Aug 1894” as referring to Peter Ditlev PETERSEN to provide “proof” that he could not be the biological father because he was in prison when the child was conceived.

Does the baptism record indicate that Johannes August Edvard was the product of an assault? "Assaldet"?  Or is this some other word?

Thank you for the additional information on Peter Ditlev PETERSEN’s rap sheet. I had his prison record here, https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1431/source155443/opslag18590611 but not more.

 

Jensine JENSEN was my grandmother’s maternal aunt.

She had 8 children with as many as 6 different men. Peter Ditlev PETERSEN is the only one she married. She didn’t have great judgment when it came to men.

That is interesting that she and Peter Ditlev PETERSEN separated in August 1896 because of her infidelity. She had a daughter with a man named Anders KRISTENSEN in June 1897!

Niels Just Rasmussen

If you mean top left at the baptism record:

"Moderens angivne opholdssted 10 maaneders dagen før nedkomsten er Randers."

= The mother reported living in Randers 10 month before giving birth.

This is obligatory judicial information -> so which area is responsible for poverty help [in this case it would be Randers].

Nothing about any assault -> she was just unfaithful to Peter Ditlev Jensen while he was in prison.

She then named a father of her child in 1896, when it was obvious to everyone she had been unfaithful and Peter Ditlev Jensen got separated from her in 1896.

Newspaper Jyllandsposten29. April 1891.

Ægteviede. Horsens d. 25. April.

Blikkenslagersvend Johan Edvard Berg og Hansine Nielsine Kathrine Dorothea Frederikke Nielsen af Horsens.

Source: https://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3Ae6277f9e-ad2f-42fa-9785-d3caa9838d98/query/%22johan%20edvard%20berg%22

Viet: 25. April 1891 i Horsens Vor Frue Sogn.

Ungkarl, blikkenslagersvend Johan Edvard Berg af Horsens, 25 Aar.

Pigen Hansine Nielsine Kathrine Dorothea Frederikke Nielsen; datter af Arbejdsmand Jens Christian Nielsen af Horsens.

Forlovere: Blikkenslager C. F. Berg af Aarhus & arbejdsmand Hans Jørgensen af Horsens.

Source (page 34, nr 26): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21637646#395740,74392723

NB: So he was unfaithful with his wife getting Johannes August Edvard Jensen (as he gets a child with his wife as late as 1909 (bottom): https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/churchbook/sogn1100/churchlisting18154/opslag3656786

C.F. Berg is very likely his father.

Census 1880: Randers, Støvring, Randers Købstad, Kvarter/Rode 70, Adelgade, Matr. 603 kælderen, 10 F1,

Carl Frederich Berg  39  Gift  blikkenslager og husfader    Sverige  

Maren Berg født Nielsen  27  Gift  husmoderen    Aalborg Aalborg Amt  

Carl Frederik Berg  16  Ugift  blikkenslagerlærling hos faderen    Randers Randers Amt  

Johan Edvard Berg  14  Ugift  sønnen    Randers Randers Amt  

Ane Kerstine Berg  8  Ugift  datteren    Randers Randers Amt  

Andreas Johannes Berg  12  Ugift  sønnen    Randers Randers Amt  

Christian Nielsen  22  Ugift  skræddersvend    Aalborg Aalborg Amt  

Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.

Here the parents in Århus:

Census 1901: Aarhus, Hasle, Aarhus Købstad, , -, 108, FT-1901, E0990

Carl Frederik Berg  18410113  G  Husfader  Blikkenslager  Sølvitsborg. Sverrig  

Maren Berg  18520322  G  Husmoder    Broust. Aalborg Amt  [Sindsygeanstalt ved Aarhus]

They were married in 1878 and moved from Randers to Århus in 1886 and have 1 dead child in the marriage according to the census.

Source: Dansk Demografisk Database & Danish Family Search (opslag 174-175): https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/sogn2920/census/census1901/opslag7445325

Dødsregister: JOH E BERG

Fornavn: JOH E

Efternavn: BERG

Køn: Mand

Sidste bopæl: Horsens

Fødselsdag: 29. mar 1866

Dødsdag: 30. jul 1943

Død i en alder af: 77 år

Civilstand: Enke[mand]

Død hvor: Horsens

Dødsårsag: Cancer recti

Source: https://dodsregister.dk/Infopage.aspx?id=ZKC4fyn/Oek+rAWtl+vCNw==

Død: 30. Juli 1943 i Horsens Klosterkirke Sogn.

Navn: Johan Edvard Berg.

Begravet: 3. August 1943 Horsens gamle kirkegaard.

Forhenværende blikkenslager. Adresse: Frederiksgade 51, Horsens.

Født: Randers (Sct. Mortens Sogn) 29. Marts 1866.

Enkemand efter Hansine Nielsine Cathrine Dorothea Frederikke, født Nielsen.

Søn af blikkenslager Carl Frederik Berg og hustru Marie Margrethe Ratke.

Alder: 77 Aar.

Skifteret: Horsens 30. Juli 1943.

Source (page 34, nr. 100): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123976#191037,32022085

Niels Just Rasmussen

By the way...

Do you have Jensine Jensen's (married Petersen) place and time of death?

KSHansen

Tak Niels!

Does this transcription make sense?

"Jf. Skriv. paa Ministeret for Kirke og [Undervisnings?] af 1/4 1896 paa er dato

[Affaltet], [at?] [dette?] Barns fødsel og Daab er [tilført?] Kirkebogen [som?] [nægte???] [lovlig?]."

Can you, or anyone else reading this, fill in the missing or misspelled portions?

Jensine JENSEN died in Sct. Morten's Sogn, Randers in 1944 at the age of 78.

Niels Just Rasmussen

It is something about the birth and baptism is also inscribed in the church book (the 1/4 1896) as ?......? -> I simply cannot read what the last two words says.

Dødsregister.

Fornavn: JEN

Efternavn: PETERSE

Pigenavn: JENSEN

Køn: Kvinde

Sidste bopæl: Randers

Fødselsdag: 21. dec 1865

Dødsdag: 23. apr 1944

Død i en alder af: 78 år

Civilstand: Enke

Død hvor: Randers

Dødsårsag: Arteriosclerosis universalis

Dødsattest: Udstedt af læge

Kilde: https://dodsregister.dk/Infopage.aspx?id=rgh+vrqAAtQz9kBgatlIbw==

Her burial in Randers Sankt Mortens Sogn (page 172, nr 19) where it is stated she is widow after Peter Ditlev Petersen: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125720#167771,28172324

Census 1940: Fabrikstræde 2b, stuen til højre. Randers Købstad.

Jensine Petersen. 21/12 1865, Stepping Sogn. Enke. Aldersrente.

Source (page 38): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=247287#247287,46886638

Census 1901: Lergravsfaldende, Mariagervej matrikel nummer 345B. Randers Købstad.

A. Christensen. 19/3 1845 i Bjærgby. Tilflyttet Randers 1866 fra Bjærgby. Skredkermester.

+ a lodger J. Chr. Jensen.

Jensine Petersen. 29/12 1865 [= 21/12] Slesvig. Separeret. Bopæl 1893 fra Kolding. Husholderske [for snedkermester A. Christensen]

Anders Christensen. [= Anders Kristian Jensen] 31/7 1899 Randers. [so skrædder Anders Christensen is his father]

Andreas Petersen. 20/1 1893 Randers.

Johannes Petersen. 1/12 1894 Randers [= 1895]. [named father Joseph Edvard Berg]

Anne Christensen. 4/6 1897 Randers. [= Anne Kirstine Elisabeth Jensen; skrædder Anders Christensen is her father].

Source (page 51): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=25243#25243,2868768

Census 1906: Mariagervej matrikel-nummer 345b, 1. sal. Randers Købstad.

Jensine Jensen. 21/12 1865. [marital status overwritten and hard to discern] Arbejderske (Fattighjælp).

Andreas Petersen 20/1 1894.

Ane Jensen. 4/7 1897.

Kristian Jensen 31/7 1899.

Frederikke Jensen. 29/8 1903.

Source (page 92): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=466926#466926,619983

Census 1911: Mariagervej matrikel-nummer 345B, gadenummer 17. Randers Købstad.

Jensine Pedersen. 21. December 1865 Sønderjylland. Enke. Bopæl: 1892. Husmoder. Blandet arbejde.

Ane Jensen. 4. Juni 1897 Randers. Barn.

Frederikke Jensen. 29. August 1903 Randers. Barn.

Luise Jensen. 19. Juli 1907 Randers. Barn.

Source (page 15): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=66469#66469,12661914

I also get that to 6 children.....