1860 Family book from Bottenwil, Aargau, Switzerland

Kent Gardiner

Translation request. The children were born in Reitnau, Aargau, Switzerland

WSeelentag

Familienbuch Bottenwil 1860: page 441 

Jakob Bachmann, son of Hans Rudolf, living on the Wiliberg, see previous page 216

Born 1830 April 26

Died (added with pencil later) Ogden U (USA or UT?) 1907 Dez 19

Married 3. 10br (December) 1852 with

Elisabeth Suter von Bözberg, died Eden U (USA or UT?) 1866 Nov (day illegible)

Children:

1854 Hornung 21: Maria, baptised in Reitnau on 26 Hornung (= February)

1857 Hornung 23: Vrena (Verena), baptised in Reitnau on 15 March

1858 Oktober 27: Jakob, baptised in Reitnau on 21 November

1860 March 14: Elisabeth, baptised in Reitnau 15 April

Note added with pencil: Nach Amerika in d (= den or die?) Morm….(?) - the family emigrated to America, and I assume the "Morm…" has to do with Mormons, but cannot decipher the entire word. 

According to your data on https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/portrait/KWJN-CH6 Jakob is the brother of Elisabeth (1824-1874): we had discussed her "Taufzettel" on https://community.familysearch.org/de/discussion/136266/1857-document-also-has-the-date-of-1824. If you don't mind, I would like to show this nice document to the members of https://www.geneal-forum.com/, together with a short note on the context, and this transliteration above. Would that be ok?

Kent Gardiner

WSeelentag

Perfectly alright. When you do so I'd love to read your comments. Thanks for a beautiful translation of this important document. All the best, Kent

WSeelentag

Thank you for your permission, @Kent Gardiner ... I have posted the information on https://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=32571 now. The transliteration of the family book will have to wait a bit (time for dinner 😀) - in the meantime the topic is blocked.

Later comments will be allowed. If you want to make sure you don't miss anything, I recommend you register (free of charge and without obligation) and "subscribe" to the topic - you would then be informed by mail about any new posting.

You are also welcome to ask any further questions about the Bachmann von Bottenwil in this topic. Please, keep in mind, that we only discuss single families (defined by surname and place of citizenship) in any given topic. Details of related families should be discussed in separate topics - which can be linked to each other.

Kent Gardiner

Done, thank you very much.

WSeelentag

Postings have been finished: topic is open for discussions now.

Finally a question about the source "family book 1860": I have re-translated it into "Familienbuch" ... but is that the correct reference? The scan looks more like a state, not church register ... and these state registers are usuall called something like "Bürgerregister" or "Burgerrodel". Do you have a copy of a title page at hand, or some other info about the correct reference?

Kent Gardiner

WSeelentag I call it a "family book" because it resembles other family books I have seen. I have seen hundreds like it. The photo of the page was taken by a relative who was visiting in Switzerland. I have no other reference. The Bachman's attended church in Reitinau. The civil records are held in Bottenwil which is in the opposite direction. You may be right about it being a state register. I have not seen any state registers that look similar so I bow to your knowledge.

WSeelentag

There is no fixed naming convention (certainly not for all of Switzerland). "Familienbuch" is most often used for church records, i.e. the pastor (or a helper) compiled all members of a family on a single page, based on baptismal, ... registers; printed forms were an exception. In most cantons around 1830 "Bürgerregister" were introduced, to be kept by the community administrations - and usually they had printed forms. Hence my assumption. Whilst the content may be identical, they were organised by a different institution, usually in a different format.

I would like to give a correct reference - so I'll try to find out 🙂.

Debra Palmer01

@WSeelentag

Hello Wolf,

Just to let you know, I looked for the reference e.g. title page of the "family book 1860", but didn't find it - since the records for Bottenwil and Reitnau are not available on FamilySearch or at a Family History Center.

Debra

WSeelentag

Thank you for your efforts, @Debra Palmer01 ... I know these (like many Aargau records) have not been filmed by familysearch. I had contacted the Bottenwil administration - and they informed my that the book is now kept at the Civil Registry Office in Zofingen - and they kindly supplied me with the correct reference: Bürgerregister Bottenwil AG, Band 1, Seite 441. I have corrected this on https://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=32571&#p121697.

Kent Gardiner

WSeelentag Thanks for the correct title for this document. Very helpful.