Help! The place names for life events of my Swedish ancestors are usually not "standard" according t
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You can just type the names of your places into the various fields. You do not HAVE to choose a standardized place.
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But are place names the reasons the people were not accepted for temple ordinances? I had some I submitted a year ago suddenly appear as "no longer qualified for temple work", and when I went in and dealt with the "non-standard" place names, they were accepted.
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That I do not know. I think you might have better luck getting an official answer if you post to a different group, since this one deals with Nordic research and your questions is really a FamilySearch questions. I don't know, though, which group would be the best; you'd have to search the lsit of groups to determine that.
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You can ask about standardized places in the @FamilySearch Places group.
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The concept of standardization in Family Tree is a bit unique but is a powerful feature that allows you to accurately enter place names which are not currently on the standards list but still link the place you entered to at least an approximate latitude and longitude on the map.
If a place name you need to enter is not currently on the standards list, you link it to the next largest available geographic region.
For example, the farm Skåla is not yet on in the standards database. In order to correctly standardize it, first I type out the entire place name as I wish it to appear, like this:
Then I click on the top line of the drop down menu, which will look exactly like what I just typed in to preserve what I typed and set the next line in the menu as the standard, making it appear like this:
If the default standard is not correct for some reason, you can click on it and make a different choice.
This is all you need to do to prevent a red exclamation point indicating a data error; have the find, match, and search routines work properly; and qualify the individual for temple work. This is all that setting a standard, which is required, means. Being standardized does not mean that the two place names in the image above have to be the same.
The error your ran into causing the non-qualifying message would have been because the entry looked like:
You correct this not by wrecking your entered name and removing accurate detail , but by clicking where it says "No Standard Is Selected" and choosing an appropriate standard Your displayed place name is not changed.
At one point it was easier to accidentally enter a place name without selecting a standard. This is much harder to do now. And before the red exclamation points were created, it was much harder to see the standard was missing. Also, it seems that names used to qualify for temple work without a standard set. That is not the case anymore.
Also, be aware you do not need to see a map pin in front of the place name. That simply means that when you look at the timeline map, the map pin there will be exactly on the place you entered. It does not mean the name you entered is wrong. if the pin is not there. It just means the pin on the map will only be in the approximate location of your place.
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I have found a way to work within the standardized feature. First I type the name of the area - ie Julita, Södermanland, Sweden. I then hit tab and have this place accepted. After that I go back in type the more specific information - ie Lerbåcken, Bottens Rote, Julita, Södermanland. Since the larger place is already noted as standardized I have found it accepts the more specific place information.
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We want to keep village and farm names in as the location. They will not be the standardized form. Just type in what you want to enter. Then, with the cursor at the end of the name, hit the space bar. It will bring up the standardized place, but it will also bring up what you typed in. It will have a gray background. Just click on it and the system will accept your entry and it will get rid of the lovely red ! marks.
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In Sweden, Family Tree seems to want 3-part names (parish, county, Sweden). I understand the need for standardized places but it is also good to have more detail of a farm name. (This same problem comes up with cemetery names in US.) But you can add it to the record in the "Reason this record is saved." This field is just a test field and will always be attached and can be read by anybody. Adding additional data here does not disrupt the "standardized place name" system.
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Adding the full place name to the place name field also does not disrupt the standardized places name system. In fact the system is designed to have the full place name there. Having the full place name where it is supposed to be, not in the reason statement, makes the place identification most obvious.
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There have been several posts regarding standardization of place names recently, enough to motivate me to rework a presentation I did before the UI update to Family Tree. Here it is with new screen shots and modified explanations:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jl6M8efrGj6Xe3MP6oyYdfFMXPSPCoJuyrS5xXj7KN8/edit?usp=sharing
I put this together in an effort to clarify what standardization means in Family Tree and how it helps us improve the accuracy of our data rather than constraining us to a limited set of "standards."
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