Which is the better record? Same person same event
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Hello @Martha Murray,
The first image in page form is a civil death record (created by a government agency)
The second image in columnar form appears to be a church death/burial record (created by a religious agency).
These records were created by different agencies for different purposes. Each record is important and one isn't better than the other. If it were me, I would want both records translated.
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Hi Robert:
The civil record is done. The church record is partially done. Some help please.
On the church record:
Address
Birth: word between Neuenheim & Heidelberg is it an abbreviation for Austria?
Mother: word after beide
Witnesses: Philipp’s occupation & the last two sentences.
Cause of death.
Thank you!
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Hello @Martha Murray,
Before proceding please confirm which record you want help with: You say it's the church record but you attached the image of the civil record.
Thank you.
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Hello again @Martha Murray,
Because your questions can only apply to the civil death record, here are the answers to your questions:
Address: Mannheim-Käfertal, Ungsteinerstrasse 13.
Birth: word between Neuenheim & Heidelberg
is it an abbreviation for Austria?: That word is "Amt" which means "district" or "jurisdiction", so the phrase reads: Neuenheim District Heidelberg.Mother: word after beide: The word after "beide" is: zuletzt = last. So the phrase reads: both last residing in Heidelberg-Neuenheim.
Witnesses: Philipp’s occupation & the last two sentences: Philip Weber is the informant providing the information to the civil registrar. He is identified as a "Schwiegersohn" = son-in-law of the decedent. Philipp's occupation is not recorded.
The last two sentences translate as: The informant is known to the civil registrar. He stated he was present at the death.
Cause of death: "Altersschwäche" = debility of old age. "Schlaganfall" = stroke.
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Hi Robert:
Thank you!
I love genealogy as I learn so many new things. First time, I have come across a description like son-in-law of the decedent, so I thought it was his occupation.
I love knowing what they died of. That can tell you a lot about a person.
You're a blessing!
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Thank you, Martha, for your kind words.
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