Why is it telling me that I have no relationship to any of my relatives? Not my mom, not my grandpa,
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@DrewMeisel DrewMeisel
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Drew
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Question:
Where are you 'seeing' NO Relationship with your Mother & other Family members?
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DO NOT panic ...
'All in not lost' ...
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As an aside ...
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In "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' ...
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You will NOT 'see' a "Relationship" with your immediate (and, STILL) "Living" Family members; as, they are STILL "Living", when they have their OWN 'FamilySearch' Accounts.
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Quickly ...
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You have a personal "Copy" of your, "Living" Mother; and, OTHER ("Living") Family members, that RESIDE in the "Private Spaces" of YOUR 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Likewise, your, "Living" Mother; and, OTHER ("Living") Family members, have their OWN personal "Copy" of the VARIOUS "Living" individuals/persons, that connect/link you together, in their "Private Spaces", of their OWN 'FamilySearch' Accounts.
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And, 'Yes', ALL those VARIOUS "Living" individuals/persons that connect/link you together, WILL be "Duplicates" - But, that is OK (and, NECESSARY); and, CANNOT be avoided - due to "Privacy".
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Confused ... you probably will be ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic nature and premise of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
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[ Continued in "Part 2"]
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Brett
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@DrewMeisel DrewMeisel
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Drew
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[ Continued from "Part 1" ]
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Furthermore ...
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Please let me explain ...
[ Please bear with me ... I am very 'Verbose' ... that is my 'Style' ... ]
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
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If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
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Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
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How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
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What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
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Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family
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Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
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And ...
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
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Overview
'FamilySearch'
"Family Tree"
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/overview
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Getting Started with Family History
Here are the main things you need to know as you get started
https://www.familysearch.org/home/etb_gettingstarted
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How to Use the Family Tree
https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/how-to-use-family-tree/
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What is The Family History Guide?
https://media.familysearch.org/what-is-the-family-history-guide/
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The Family History Guide
Introduction
About The Family History Guide
https://www.thefhguide.com/introduction.html
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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@DrewMeisel DrewMeisel
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Drew
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I am "Moving" this 'Question' of yours, in the 'Group' being "How to Use FamilySearch Community", in this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, to the 'Group' being "FamilySearch Family Tree", in the Forum; so that, the members of that group can answer/assist you.
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And ...
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I am "Tagging" this 'Question' of yours, to the 'Group' being "Getting Started on FamilySearch", in this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum; so that, the members of that group can answer/assist you.
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Both, those 'Groups' are "Public", which you can join, if you wish.
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The 'Group' being "How to Use FamilySearch Community", is mainly about HOW to USE this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, rather than for help or research assistance.
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Brett
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@Getting Started on FamilySearch
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@Brett . you’re being “very verbose” I think personally is one of best parts of the FS Community. You always give very precise and detailed information which is super helpful and useful! Thank you! I would never be able to explain some of the things so that everyone can understand it .... you do a great job with that! I think the fs community is very lucky to have you!
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@Brett . Thank you for all this info, it's super helpful and will be great to have in my backpocket as I contiue developing my family history. I should have used better examples though. I understand about the living vs deceased relatives not being public, but my tree is showing I'm not related to any of my deceased relatives. That includes the most recently deceased member, my grandpa. I think I'm just going to start my tree over and see if that fixes things.
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@DrewMeisel DrewMeisel
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Drew
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'Whoa Back' ...
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You CANNOT really 'Start' your "Ancestral" lines, 'over', in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' ...
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As, we have NO "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree".
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We can certainly "Delete" the "Living" individuals/persons in one's "Private Spaces" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' ...
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But ...
That said ...
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In most cases (there is a particular circumstance were we can), we CANNOT "Delete" the "Deceased" individuals/persons in one's "Ancestral" lines in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; as, they are "Public"; and, NOT in one's "Private Spaces".
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Now ...
To the matter as hand ...
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IF, you understand the 'concept' about "Living" individuals/persons in (your) "Private Spaces"; THEN, I am very confused as to the reason for your dilemma!?
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Again ...
I ask ...
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Question:
Where are you 'seeing' NO Relationship with your Mother & other Family members?
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Lets try an explore the reason for your dilemma ...
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Brett
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One thing that may help, if you have not done so yet, is to add the living people to your tree back to the first set of deceased ancestors. The living people you create might be duplicates, but they bridge the gap and create the relationships with your deceased relatives. I hope that helps!
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