Ottenbach ZH - baptism - 1577 - Sidler - Elisabeth

Kent Gardiner

Ottenbach ZH - birth - 1577 - Elisabetha Sidler

First document:

https://www.gatheringgardiners.com/2020/01/elisabetha-sidler-1577.html

WSeelentag

22 Decembris [1577]

E(ltern): Hans Sidler, Madalena Stölin

K(ind): Elisabeth

Z(eugen): Mich(?)l Sigerist, Margareta Schiller

Mich(?)l: not sure about this letter - but only Michael makes sense.

You mention "… is assumed to be a stillborn." I don't think a stillborn child would be baptised. In some records there are separate sections mentioning stillborn childen - if listed in the baptismal register I would expect a corresponding note. Possibly Zürich was an exception - see Geneal-Forum.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag Very interesting discussion on stillborn children who are not baptized. Can we assume all entries in these church records are baptisms (not stillborn) unless otherwise noted? The Geneal-Forum was very helpful in understanding how this worked back then.

The number of infant deaths is staggering.

Thanks for the translation.

WSeelentag

"Can we assume all entries in these church records are baptisms (not stillborn) unless otherwise noted?"

That has been my asumption so far - but I have never tought about it in too much depth - so, don't take it for granted.

In the quote it states that the custom of burying unbaptised children differed in Zürich - which doesn't necessarily mean that baptismal customs for stillborn children differed as well.

Kent Gardiner

WSeelentag Most community members translate. That is helpful. You go deep, bring up interesting questions and extend my thinking. You do much more than just translate. Bless you! You are awesome.