Birthdate/year information in Vluyn
I am looking for birthdate/ year for
Johann Heinrich Kocks
Parents Heinrich Kocks and Margaretha Fraenken.
Wife Margaretha Hoefken
I believe around 1825 in Vluyn-Rheurdt-Kapelen area.
I have checked various sources and none give date or year.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
Miglior Risposta
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There is a birth of his daughter on 30 May 1854 recorded in Kapellen which gives his age as 25 so he would have been born about 1829. At that time he is a farmhand and his residence is Ruhrort but his wife's residence is Kapellen.
His marriage record in 20 Jan 1854 says he is from Rayen and he was at that time a resident of Crefeld.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSPF-XKBK?i=105&cat=15529
Rayen is just outside of Vluyn and likely in the Vluyn parish.
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20556070
Since he was a farmhand and moved frequently (perhaps seasonal farm work) it is not clear to me that he was born in Rayen. It could be that he was just a resident of Rayen before he went to Crefeld and then on to Ruhrort. It may be difficult to find his birth record if it isn't in the Vluyn parish records.
Ruhrort:
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/20650057
Crefeld:
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10303040
Edit to add: Heinrich Kocks sister, Catharina, marries at the age of 21 in 1845 (so b 1824, 5 years before Heinrich). Her marriage record says she was born in Rheurdt. It also says her deceased father is from Rheurdt (probably where he died, not necessarily where he was born). Her mother is also deceased at that time.
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Risposte
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Thank you!!
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Thank you!
Is there a death date on Heinrich Kocks and/ or wife?
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No death date given for the parents but there is a huge handwritten list in Catharinas marriage record documenting that the birth certificates of the bride and groom and the death certificates of the brides parents and both maternal and paternal grandparents were all received. So at that time they were all in order and existed.
I pulled up the list of familysearch films for Rayen:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/108437?availability=Family%20History%20Library
If you look at the list, film 1050637 (births for 1829-1845) is indexed but not viewable on line. The index reveals the following births to Heinrich Kocks and Margaretha Fränken:
Bernhard 12 Feb 1830
Maria 21 Mar 1832
Lambert 26 Oct 1834
Anna 19 Nov 1836
So your Heinrich was likely born in 1828 which makes sense since he was 25 in January 1854 and his siblings were all born about 2 years apart.
I think there is a very, very good chance that Heinrich's birth is on film 1049500 which covers births from 1798 to 1828 in Rayen and has not been indexed and is not viewable online.
The death records for 1816 to 1847 are in film 1050642 which is also unindexed and not viewable online.
The parents marriage records might also be on film 1269588, Item 4 (Eheverkündigungen 1802-1833) , also unindexed and not viewable online.
These films should be viewable in Salt Lake City. Unfortunately they no longer have a lookup service. But if you can get to SLC you should be able to view the actual records. Or you might be able to find a local professional genealogist in SLC familiar with german records who could look up the records for a fee.
Edit to add: There is a brother Wilhelm who was born in Rayen in 1825 and died in 1892. So we have siblings older and younger than Heinrich being born in Rayen. I think you'll find Heinrich and his brother Wilhelm's births on film 1049500.
https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10864-8725566-F/heinrich-kocks-in-germany-north-rhine-westphalia-deaths?fspid=MMWL-4MM
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Thank you again! You've been very helpful.
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