Translation request, please: Baptism in Grevesmühlen, 12 Mai 1770: Böttger/Böttcher
In the 1819 census of Grevesmühlen, the wife of Johann Leppin is listed with a birth date of 12 May 1770 in Gustorf and, I believe, indicates that the baptism took place in Grevesmühlen. Checking the Grevesmühlen register I did indeed find a baptism on that date, and the last word in the entry is Böttger. I think the previous word may be Heinrich, but I'm over my pay grade in reading this handwriting, so I'm not sure. It doesn't really look "right" to me, but someone with more experience will surely know more than I do.
It's the first entry on the left-hand page in the image below. If someone could please translate that, I would be very grateful. Thank you so much. Barbara
Miglior Risposta
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Hello Barbara,
The record is very difficult to read with precision because of the low resolution of the image.
But you are correct when you say the record doesn't look "right" for your family research.
First, the date of this record is: 12 April, not 12 May.
Notice about halfway down the left-hand page the month of "Majus" = Maius = May is written in the left margin; then further down the month of "Junius" = June is written. Also note that there is no recorded birth/baptism dated 12 May during the month of May. To confirm that the record at the top of the page is 12 April you would need to refer back to the page before to see what month is written in the left-hand column; it is likely to be April.
You are corrrect that the last-named person in the record at the top of the left-hand page is a man named Friederich Böttger, however he is one of the baptismal witnesses.
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Risposte
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Thank you, Robert, for correcting my Heinrich to Friedrich and my May to April. You are right. I checked the previous page and found April in the margin. I had thought the marginal comment referred to the start of the page, not where it actually started. I should have studied the day numbering more carefully.
Since the baptism is not recorded in Grevesmühlen on that date, I assume that either she got the year wrong and I should check on either side of it for several years, or her baptism was registered elsewhere. I did note that there were a number of Böttgers from Gostorf whose burials were registered in the Grevesmühlen register, but it was difficult to identify exactly who was dying because the recordings were generally "Böttgers' frau" or "Böttgers kind" — no other identifying information. I had hoped to find Asmus, the "late worker from Gostorf" who was listed in his daughter's marriage record. He may be there, but only as "Böttger aus Gostorf." Thank you for your help and for straightening out my misunderstandings!
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You're welcome, Barbara.
Yes, it would be a good idea to check a few years on either side of 1770 to see if you can find her birth/baptismal record. (My own rule of thumb is 5 years on either side of the stated year.) Be sure to check all records for May not just May 12 to be on the safe side.
Good luck!
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I've been trying to check at least five years each way, but I stopped when I thought I might have found her, having misinterpreted the month. That will teach me!
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I found the baptism of Asmus Bötgers' daughter, whose name I still cannot read, on 10 May 1769 in the Grevesmühlen register. Would you be able to read that entry for me, please? It is the second one on the right hand page. Thank you so much, Barbara.
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Hello Barbara,
Translation:
On the 10th of May: Asmus Bötger from Gostorf, daughter, Engel Vieck L__?; witnesses: An? S__sch?, Liesch? Kaldhorst, Engel Busch.
Hello Greg — because you are more familiar with names in this area would you please take a look at this record and see what you think? Thanks, Robert Seal_1
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Thank you, Robert! I wondered if that was Engel, but wouldn't have bet on it! The Vieck would possibly be the Vieck/Vieke/Fieke, then? Maybe that "L" word is for Lena, as in Magdalena. I appreciate your help, and I hope that Greg has insights, too. My thanks to both of you!
I did notice that the baptism right below this one, on 15 May 1769 is also for a Bötger child, this one the son of Clas (I think) Bötger of Wotenitz. Is his name Jochim Friedrich? It looks as if some of the names of godparents are similar, the first name of the last person in each of the baptisms for example (not sure of the name, though) and a couple of other similarities. And a Michael (?) Bötger, in the second one, too.
Barbara
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Hello Barbara,
Yes, in the next record with the date of 15 May: the father is Clas Bötger, the son is Jochim Hinrich, and the witnesses are Hans Bötger, Michael Bötcher, and Leisch? Kell_____?
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Thank you, Robert. Someday I'm going to get Friedrich and Hinrich sorted out.
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You're welcome, Barbara.
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