Help with understanding information at the end of marriage registration in 1799
This marriage registration from 1799. I've deciphered names, ages, occupations and parents for the bride and groom, the witness information, and dates of marriage registration.
1) At the end of the entry and there are multiple names and dates listed. I am not sure if this is pertinent information for this couple and the parents. Not sure if the dates following the names of the bride and groom are the date banns were posted but I confess, I am totally lost about what I am reading.
2) Note: It looks like Wilhelm Hemmersbach is Mathias Becker's stepfather but can you help with the relationship of Sebastian Henn to the bridegroom?
Your input is so very appreciated!!!
“Geburts-, Heirats-, und Sterberegister für 27.07.1798 – 16.09.1799” (Civil Birth-, Marriage-, and Death Register – 27.07.1798 – 16.09.1799”) Marriage Registration # 13 in 1799 for Mathias Becker and Helena Knepper. Order Reference: 2.26 Zivilstandsregister 2.26.004, Stadtarchiv Hürth, City Archive Hürth https://actapro390.kdvz.nrw/actaproweb/image.xhtml?id=5c066491-9bdc-4174-9de0-6abcc3816762 : accessed 25 August 2023), digital image, Hürth, Rhein-Erft-Kreis, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany. https://www.huerth.de/digitales-archiv.php.
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Hello @BetteB
which record do you refer to? There are (parts of) two records in the image. The image is unfortunately quite fuzzy and difficult to read, and the link points to death records, not marriage records. Could you please check once more?
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Hi again,
I included both pages of the marriage record initially in case they were required. The civil registration book referenced here includes birth, death, and marriage records for the time period. Marriage records are found at the end of the record set. It is found on page 40 on the pdf found at the link
The part of the marriage record I am questioning starts toward the middle of the entry and continues to the end. I believe this information might include birthdates of the bride and groom since I have seen that on other marriage records for this time period. But there are other dates, perhaps related to the parents, who are mentioned in this text.
For example, toward the top of this snippet, Mathias Becker is listed with his "taufen" [?] and the date the 22 Ventose in the 7th year French republic. Later he is named with a date of 27 March 1768 and then his parents are named. I believe the second date is his birthdate but I don't recognize the words that would clarify that for me. Also, the first date doesn't make sense as a baptismal date but I think I see the word "Taufenschein".
I appreciate your help and hope this additional information makes it possible for you to view this document in a clearer format. The site is free but they require you to register.
Reference number:2.26.004Title:Geburts-, Heirats- und Sterberegister für 27.07.1798 - 16.09.1799Additional information:Enthält: Gemeinde Gleuel(Pre-)provenance(s):StandesamtOrder reference number:(2.26 Zivilstandsregister), 2.26.004
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Now the link was correct, thank you.
The text is just the very wordy preliminaries of the wedding (including the birth dates of the couple). Here is the translation:
I, Joseph Theisen, Municipal Agent, after having read out in the presence of the parties and said witnesses, Firstly, the baptismal certificate of Mathias Becker dated 22. Ventose seventh year (12 March 1799), whereby it is certified that the said Mathias Becker was born on March 27, 1768 from the lawful marriage of the said Christian Becker and Sophia Schlömer at Hürth in the canton of Brühl, Secondly, the baptismal certificate of Helena Knepper dated 22. Ventose seventh year (12 March 1799) of the contents, that said Helena Knepper was born on February 28, 1769 from the lawful marriage of Anton Knepper and Anna Schmitz at Glewel, Thirdly, the act of consent of both parents, Fourthly, the proclamation act of the marriage promise between the future spouses drawn up by me Joseph Theisen the 10. Germinal seventh year (30 March 1799) and posted the same day on the doors of the parish church in Glewel, as well as after Mathias Becker and Helena Knepper have declared with a loud voice that they want to marry each other, I have pronounced in the name of the law that Mathias Becker and Helena Knepper are united in marriage, and have drawn up the present...
[next page:] record which the parties and witnesses, because they are inexperienced in writing, have marked with their sign.
Done in Glewel in the year, month and day as above.
Wilhelm Hemmersbach and Sebastian Hemm are witnesses. You are correct Wilhelm Hemmersbach is called the stepfather of the groom and Sebastian Hemm is a tailor and uncle (Ohm) of the groom.
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Thank you so much! Your input is helping me learn, which will hopefully decrease the number of times I need to come here for assistance.
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