Seeking birth and emigration information for Luxembourg native Nicholas Terry (L1MF-VTG). He lived

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Seeking birth and emigration information for Luxembourg native Nicholas Terry (L1MF-VTG). He lived in upstate New York, where he mustered into the US Army in 1862 at Lockport. After the was he was a coal miner in Schuylkill County PA.

He was born between 1831-1837 and came to the US sometime in advance of joining the Army. His name is probably anglicized, there are a number of similar surnames in the Luxroots database. There were two passenger lists from Antwerp to New York that may have had him (one in 1852, one in 1857); and he may be shown on the New York State 1860 census in Clarence NY. I have no way of verifying these items. The historical society in Lockport NY did not have anything to add; it was a busy place in the 1850’s and 60’s, being strategically placed along the Erie Canal. Is anyone aware of any special connections between Luxembourg communities and upstate New York? See his 1868 naturalization petition, attached.

Adrien Kintziger

would this be a candidate?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PQQ-4D7X?i=2929&cc=1838804&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXKPQ-H83

 

naturalisation in '60 , well before the armyservice

Fritz Juengling

Molly,

it looks like you have done quite a bit of research. the records that you want will be at the parish or town level in Luxembourg. you will need to find that for certain at some point.

In the meantime, try this: go to this site on FamilySearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927075?region=Luxembourg

It's the Luxembourg search page.

Search for your person using these spellings:

Nicholas, Nicolaus, Nicholaus, Nicolas. You could also substitute a 'k' for the 'c'

The search parameters should account for all these, and other, spellings.

Now, try these spellings for the last name:

Thiry, Thiery.

These spellings are not necessarily picked up by 'Terry.' There will be candidates for your person (I know, I looked), but that does not mean that you WILL find the right person. You will have to sift through the information and see whether all things match. It will mean some research in Luxembourg, more in the US, then back to Lux, and so on until you piece together the correct story and family.

I hope this helps.

Fritz

LegacyUser

Thanks to you both. The Thiry family that naturalized in Chicago is related, but not my direct line. I have met a DNA relative, last name Thiry, whose family did go to the Midwest. They came from Hollenfels. We share about 40 cm of DNA. I am hopeful this mystery can be solved in time.

Fritz Juengling

You might have to trace other relatives, friends, and neighbors to see where THEY come from in order to find the origin of your people.

 

Have you tried my suggestion yet?

Adrien Kintziger

@Dr Juengling.

Fritz, i tried your suggestions for this name, and used the spelling as given but only variated Thery, Thiry Terry, Tirry etc, all with Nicholas as given name.

After setting to match all terms exactly(luxemburg) found no hits for all of them.

So most probably a fonetic spelling done by the office clerck.After observing his signature; he could well be analphabetic/writes bad....

 

So i took another approach, setting Belgium as country of origin, and take a spelling that is common here.

So =>Nicolas Thiry ,match exactly , returns Belgian Luxemburg=full of hits

His origin should probably be the province Luxemburg in Belgium , that is exactly next to the country Luxemburg , and was once part of it.

 

This is the example... no certainty he is among them, but a good starting point.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?

givenname=nicolas&givenname_exact=on&surname=Thiry&surname_exact=on&birth_place=belgium&birth_place_exact=on&count=20&offset=0

 

Adrie (short of time again)

 

Adrien Kintziger

Relocating to header.

 

@Dr Juengling.

Fritz, i tried your suggestions for this name, and used the spelling as given but only variated Thery, Thiry Terry, Tirry etc, all with Nicholas as given name.

After setting to match all terms exactly(luxemburg) found no hits for all of them.

So most probably a fonetic spelling done by the office clerck.After observing his signature; he could well be analphabetic/writes bad....

 

So i took another approach, setting Belgium as country of origin, and take a spelling that is common here.

So =>Nicolas Thiry ,match exactly , returns Belgian Luxemburg=full of hits

His origin should probably be the province Luxemburg in Belgium , that is exactly next to the country Luxemburg , and was once part of it.

 

This is the example... no certainty he is among them, but a good starting point.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?

givenname=nicolas&givenname_exact=on&surname=Thiry&surname_exact=on&birth_place=belgium&birth_place_exact=on&count=20&offset=0

 

Adrie (short of time again)

LegacyUser

This is the list I’ve compiled from a database called Luxroots. As you can see there are a lot of options. Surprising how common a name that is! The search will continue...

Adrien Kintziger

A quick look at it, ..at least two towns on the list are in Belgium, Arlon and Bastogne.(province Luxemburg), So the search will have to include....

 

The name is so common here, you will find mountains of it.

 

Adrie