Existence of another Stammbuch for Rost families
I have a copy of the book "Stammbuch der Rost- und Rust-Famiien: Auf Grund genealogischer Forschungen" by Wilhelm Rost, published in 1963 at Bad Münder am Deister. Unfortunately, I've scoured it for mention of a connection to my Rost ancestors and haven't found them. Wilhelm Rost mentions in his forward that there are many lines yet to research and he hopes to come out with a second volume.
I see in the catalog of the Family History Library that there is another book by him: "Die Rost-Sippen in Deutschland : ein Beitrag zur Gesamtnamenforschung : erster Band-80 Stämme." I think this was published in 1975, according to a copy of the table of contents that was tucked inside the first book.
I can't make out whether these are additional family lines or exactly what the difference is. The Stammtafeln list in the table of contents of both books looks very similar. Still, neither turns up a location that relates to what I know of the family back to the mid-1800s.
GenWiki lists two additional "Band" editions by Herr Rost with more family lines:
- Die Rost-Sippen in Deutschland / Bd. 1. 80 Stämme, 1976
- Die Rost-Sippen in Deutschland / Bd. 2. 96 Stämme, 1986
- Die Rost-Sippen in Deutschland / Bd. 3. 120 Stämme, 1987
But it doesn't appear that FHL has Band 2 and 3. WorldCat says FHL has Band 2, but a search on FHL doesn't show that.
Could someone explain how these Stammbuch editions relate - are they additional lines or updates with some new lines? - and whether it would be possible to track down the others? (Could these be added to the suggestions for new purchases by the FHL? I'm not sure whether one must go to the physical library to access books there.)
Thank you!
Elda
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Hello Elda,
I checked the German National Library catalog for the second title Die Rost-Sippen in Deutschland : ein Beitrag zur Gesamtnamenforschung. (The German National Library is like our Library of Congress.)
The title Die Rost-Sippen in Deutschland : ein Beitrag zur Gesamtnamenforschung was published in three volumes between 1976 and 1987. No further volumes have been published since 1987.
Volume 1 of the above title was published in 1976 and has the subtitle: 80 Stämme [80 lineages/families].
Volume 1 contains 535 pages.
Volume 2 of the above title was published in 1986 and has the subtitle: 96 Stämme [96 lineages/families]. Volume 2 contains 751 pages.
Volume 3 of the above title was published in 1987 and has the subtitle: 120 Stämme [120 lineages/families].
Volume 3 contains 460 pages.
Certainly the two books are related in the sense that they both are about the Rost family and are written by the same author. Perhaps the second title is a revision of the author's 1963 book and contains additional research and information. If you add the pages in the three volumes of the second title, the total is 1,746 pages. You can compare this total with the pages in the 1963 book which you own to get a good idea of how much more extensive the second title is as compared to the first title.
A check of the Family History Library catalog indicates that the FHL holds the 1963 title and volume 1 only of the second title. Both of these titles are in off-site storage and have a note indicating that they are both currently unavailable. Despite what WorldCat says, I find no indication that the FHL acutally holds volume 2 or volume 3 of the second title.
Checking WorldCat, several American libraries other than the FHL hold the second title, including Library of Congress, Harvard University, and the New York Public Library. It is difficult to tell from WorldCat which volumes are held by these other libraries. You could try interlibrary loan at your local public library to see if any of these libraries would be willing to loan the volumes which they do hold.
Yes, you may want to suggest the purchase of the complete three-volume set of the second title, since the first volume of the second title is in storage, and as I understand it, books in storage at the FHL will not be available anytime in the foreseeable future.
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Thank you for your research into this, Robert! The 1963 Stammbuch that I own has 346 pages. So yes, it sounds like there is a lot more added in the three-volume books.
I realize that this is a pretty narrow focus that is not going to be of much use to others, but I will suggest these editions for the FHL. I don't know how it works to request a book from the FHL, in general. Do people have to come to the library to look at a book in the collection or is it like an interlibrary loan and the book comes to a local library or the local family history center?
I'll also give interlibrary loan a try. Like you, I had trouble figuring out if those U.S. libraries really had the books that WorldCat said they did.
I've come to a brick wall on my dad's line, ending with a very mysterious Friedrich Moritz Rost, Meisterbrauer, who lived around Dresden and died sometime in the 1870s or 1880s, location unknown, and lots of conflicting stories.
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If the FHL thought it was important to add the first volume of the 3-volume set, I would think it would also want to add the 2nd and 3rd volumes of this title to its collection.
Did you see the recent post dated 29 January 2020 in the German Genealogy Research community forum from Fritz Juengling about suggesting book purchases for the FHL? Find that post and you can reply directly to it. Provide, author, title, publisher, and mention that it is a 3-volume set of books of which the FHL holds the first volume which is currently in off-site storage and not available.
Yes, you would have to go to the FHL in Salt Lake City to view the volumes. The FHL does not interlibrary loan their books. Also realize that the 3-volume set is probably out of print and might be hard to find on the second-hand book market, so in the end the FHL may not be able to purchase the additional volumes of this title.
If you do place an interlibrary loan for the title via your local public library, be sure to tell the librarian accepting your interlibrary loan request that it is a 3-volume set and you are requesting all three volumes.
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I did add a reply to that post from Fritz about book suggestions. Well, if by any luck they actually do find and purchase copies, I guess that's a reason to see the FHL! Thanks for your suggestions.
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Update from Oct.2023: One volume of the second edition of the Rost book is available at New York Public Library, according to WorldCat. Since it's a public library, it should be easier to get it through an interlibrary loan from NYPL than from Harvard library and such.
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