I would like to provide a better source/link than what already exists on a record.
Folks:
The below is cited on an ancestor for Riksarkivet.set:
ArkivDigital Online Swedish Archive Flo C:2 (1817-1850) Image 120 / page 233 (AID: v8119.b120.s233, NAD: SE/GLA/13116)
The actual record in FS is:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/KWJ2-KP5
Note I'm looking at Catherina's 2nd cited source.
I personally think the source listed is difficult for folks to find. I struggled to pull it up on Riksarkivet. Sure, I don't know how to navigate that site all too well, but I would like an actual link, etc, because I want to source this very record for Catharina's two parents--who do NOT yet have a single source. That is why I'm trying to get a more concise source as I want to ensure we have proper and adequate sources for Catharina's mother and father and perhaps clean up her siblings as there are 2 other Catherina's listed in her family--which I'm sure isn't accurate.
Respuestas
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The problem with that citation is that it is from ArkivDigital and citation from Riksarkivet is little different. Because they are different databases, image numbers are often different, if page number is mentioned, then use that.
Riksarkivet source reference: Flo kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/GLA/13116/C/2 (1817-1850), Image ID: 124, page 233
Direct link: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0047162_00124
In Riksarkivet use following navigation:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/kyrkoarkiv
Write the parish name into "Search archive/parish" then click Search
-> Select right Archive/parish
Then if you have ArkivDigital citation like this: ArkivDigital Online Swedish Archive Flo C:2 (1817-1850) Image 120 / page 233 (AID: v8119.b120.s233, NAD: SE/GLA/13116)
-> look for alphabet:number after name of the parish (I have bolded it in the citation)
-> then look in the Riksarkivet parish archive page that same from "Volume" column (it look like this SE/GLA/13116/C/2)
-> then check that the years match in "Date" column
-> then click "Image" button from the right
It opens a new window
-> from the top select the right image/page. (If image is different, select the correct page)
From the right column "More information" you can copy the image link and source reference.
I hope this helps you.
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As always, excellent help. Thanks Heidi.
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Heidi:
After I updated the source on Olof and Ingeborg, I noticed the family in FS shows 3 Christinas. 2 have different birth years and no sources, so I likely will detach them from this family but I wanted to confirm my thought was correct.
Also, can you tell me if the box on the far right is the rest of Christina's siblings or other people at her house at the time of her birth? I was wondering if I should use that to compare to what we show in FamilySearch for her family--at the time of her birth.
Thank you!
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Trevor,
Before you do anything in Family Tree you need to have sources to back up what you are doing, so don't detach 2 Cathrinas before research.
Have you looked this family from house hold records?
Flo kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/GLA/13116/A I/8 (1836-1840), bildid: C0047152_00066, sida 102
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0047152_00066
Here is the family and it clearly shows that the second Cathrina belonged to this family and died under age of 2. So find the birth and death records for this child. Then you will have 3 sources for her.
First Catharina most likely also belonged to this family. There is enough big cap for her to be born and die between 12 Aug 1834 and 10 Oct 1837. FamilyTree has the birth day for her 24 Dec 1837 and death day 3 Jan 1837. Check those records for her.
It was very common in many areas, that when the child died, parents gave his/her name to the next child.
Last box (column) in Catharina's birth record contains the names of godparents. Some on those people most likely are some how related to Catharina's family and some people are just their friends.
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Good point, Heidi. I've now sources both parents, Johana, Anna and the two Catherinas. I didn't realize a family would carry the name of a deceased sibling on to the next. Very different than how I grew up. So good to know!
While talking about this family, can you tell me if it is usual for 2 kids (oldest) to be left off of the family record? Is it possible Anders and Johan had moved away? My understanding is if they had it would be recorded as such. Maybe I need to go back to earlier family records to find their births. Or, perhaps, is it safe to assume they were not part of the family unit? The two in yellow (see attached) do NOT have sources in FS and don't show up in the family record you found for me.
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Trevor,
If you look the birth and death dates for Anders and Johan Olofsson, you can see that both of them died at young age. That household record which I earlier provided to you has datering of years 1836-1840 and both of the older boys died before that. Most likely you can find them in the earlier household record (husförhörslängder). Also you can search their birth and death records.
This family teaches to you the importance of adding sources. If person(s) doesn't have sources, other people can have difficulties determining the correct family.
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Hi Trevor,
There were all three Cathrine's in Olof and Inga's family just like FS had, 1836, 1837 and 1840
I see the sources were actually there in the "Reason this is Correct" spot instead of the official source.
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If you open the full "person" record for each of those boys you will see the book and page number of the sources listed by Traci Pritchard back in 2017 but it's in the "Reason this is Correct" field not in Sources
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Clifford: I follow what you wrote. I've updated the sources for several of the children. However, I have one potential issue. WOuld you mind looking up LZFC-TWZ. Johana Olofsdotter. Traci Pritchard wrote in 2017 that Johana's death is:
Flo, Skaraborg, Sweden, Flo Parish Death Records 1851-59
The below doesn't have that exact range. I look at 1852-1860 and on page 5 could NOT find a Johana Olofsdotter. Can you find it, by chance?
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There is a duplicate book for deaths (F3) where Traci Pritchard found the death record for Johana.
I found her death recorded in the F4 book on page 6. Riksarkivet did not scan the duplicate F3 book, it's only on Arkivdigital.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0047168_00011
Flo kyrkoarkiv, Död- och begravningsböcker, SE/GLA/13116/F/4 (1852-1860), Image ID: C0047168_00011, page 6
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Thanks, Clifford. Sourced!
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