am looking for the parents of my great-great grandfather, Charles Stanley KGTY-WXF

LegacyUser

am looking for the parents of my great-great grandfather, Charles Stanley KGTY-WXF

The current names in the tree along with Charles' specific birth and death dates came from notes left to the family by Charles' wife. His "siblings?"

on the Family Search Tree were born in Boston around the time that Charles was born and had the same parents' names, Phineas and Prudence. Sources can be used to indirectly point to their identities, but I cannot find any baptism, marriage, or census sources to back this up. Charles' wife had stories indicating they and their in-laws may have been privateers or purloiners around the war of 1812. 

Dik Thurston

Have you tried using the FamilySearch Wiki for Massachusetts research help? You can get there by clicking on the FS Wiki Massachusetts Geneal... link in the Links column at the left. It will give several options to explore.

LegacyUser

Thanks. I have been through probably all of these. A lot of my sources for this family came from these sources. In addition, I have searched through the Family Search card catalog entries for Boston. They are good. I had to go to Family Search center to see some of them. There are still records for Boston at the Family Search Center at Salt Lake.

Dik Thurston

Looks like you have done a pretty thorough search. His family could have been out of Boston at the time he was born. Do you think you should cast a wider net?

Dik Thurston

I found that Rev. Hosea Ballou, a Universalist minister in Boston, was probably the same as the one who married Charles and Elizabeth. You may want to search the Universalist Church records in Boston.

LegacyUser

I did find this and it verified that Charles was from Boston and also his wife was from Boston(source in with Charles' sources). The latter I had not known. Hosea also was in Portsmouth, NH at the time his mother-in-law was growing up. Could not find her birth record( Not having much luck at all with New England around the war of 1812).

Also, Ancestry does say that there was a Phineas Stanley who had a business in Boston from 1812-1819, but no Census record. Charles lived in Lowell around the time he was married and some sources said he lived with his mother Prudence.

 

Dik Thurston

Does anyone else in the group have any ideas where to search for more sources?

 

LegacyUser

Rth5, have you looked for military records? Did any of the men serve in the War of 1812? Would there be land records?

https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1991/winter/war-of-1812.html

LegacyUser

Thank you for this idea. I just found a record for Phineas Standly belonging to the Massachusetts Militia based in Boston. There are other sources indicating that there was a Phineas Stanley who worked in Boston around that time but no census so far. The leading candidate for Charles' father was born in 1759 in Concord, N.H. He would have been 53 years old in 1812 when Charles was born. I would like to know when he was born. Another Phineas(sp) Stanley served in the Vermont Militia. It turns out that several of the 1759 Phineas had several brothers who moved to Vermont where this other Pinehas came from. Census indicated that he was born well after 1759( there was a family with kids born from 1800 to 1811). The Family Search Tree has the 1759 Phineas associated with that family.

Thanks again

P.S.: I do have not strong/weak DNA evidence connecting me and several close relatives to the family of Phineas(b 1759)  and his siblings. There were a lot of siblings. 

LegacyUser

Sometimes DNA can still help in situations like this, but you will still have some extensive research to do to place the individuals in the correct places at the right time.

53 is not too old to be the father, but it is probably too old for most women to conceive.

LegacyUser

  Prudence was a lot younger. There seems to be very few Stanley's in Boston at that time. Charles' in-laws were Lemoine's(LeMoyne's). They appear but not my specific ancestor. The Lemoyne's seem to have been sailors.

 

  I do have access to 2 other full DNA match lists besides mine and about 30 others that could be shared matches with some of these 5th-8th cousins. The results were consistent that Phineas was the one born in 1759, but... There were a lot of Phineas' in the family and there were matches with cousins.