2 words in 1717 Alsace birth record
Would the occupation of Christian Roth be 'Schloss' = locksmith? And help please with the bolded phrase in Hannß Studern ledige Gësell, aust?dern? Unterhat?
Transcription
:d[en]. 9? Octobr h[ora]. 1 antem: 1717. natus: ☉ 20 p. Trin: d. 10 Octobris Renatus. Oberhofen
:Hannß Michel
:Hannß Jacob Schmidten des jüngen Bürg:[er] alhier, u[nd] Gertrudt s.[einer] Ehefr
:Christian Roth, der Schloff?? Zu Bischweiler, und Hannß Studern ledige Gësell, auff/aus?dren Unterhat?, weyl. Jacob Studers des gew. Bürgers, hinterl. Sohn. Und Anna Jundthin Christian Jundthen der Bürg: zu Kurtzenhausen Ehefrau.
Translation
:Date and location: the 9? October 1 o’clock before noon: 1717. born: ☉ [Sun symbol = Sunday] 20[th Sunday] post Trinity: the 10 October baptized. Oberhofen
:Infant name: Hannß Michel
:Parents: Hannß Jacob Schmidt the young, Citizen here, and Gertrudt his Wife
:Christian Roth, the Locksmith?? in Bischweiler, and Hannß Studer, unmarried Journeyman, ?? ??, surviving Son of the late Jacob Studer the former Citizen. And Anna Jundth Wife of Christian Jundth the Citizen at Kurtzenhausen.
Source: Archives d’Alsace; Archives Départementales du Bas-Rhin; Oberhoffen-sur-Moder - Paroisse protestante (Avant 1793) - Registre de baptêmes mariages sépultures 1671-1737 - 3 E 345/1; https://archives.bas-rhin.fr/detail-document/ETAT-CIVIL-C342-P2-R206944#visio/page:ETAT-CIVIL-C342-P2-R206944-2316175; Image 64 of 186;
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You did very well with the transcription! I would agree that the occupation of Christian Roth starts "Schloss_"; a locksmith is a Schlosser. The last letters are missing here, maybe missing in the fold. The actual birthdate is not readable. The date entry starts with the crossed-out "19. p. Trin." which was the 3 October 1717.
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19 p[ost]. Trin[itatis]: d[en]. _? Octobr h[ora]. 1 antem: 1717. natus: ☉ 20 p. Trin: d. 10 Octobris Renatus. Oberhofen:Hannß Michel
:Hannß Jacob Schmidten des jüngen Bürg:[er] alhier, u[nd] Gertrudt s.[einer] Ehefr
:Christian Roth, der Schloss_? Zu Bischweiler, und Hannß Studern ledige Gësell, aus dem Unterhof, weyl. Jacob Studers des gew. Bürgers, hinterl. Sohn. Und Anna Jundthin Christian Jundthen des Bürg:[ers] zu Kurtzenhausen Ehefrau.
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Thanks @Ulrich Neitzel. I can't find any reference to Unterhof, but certainly makes sense given the town was Oberhoffen! And yes, the birth date is blotched, but there seems to be a descending line coming out at the bottom, and given baptisms almost always appear to happen within 1-3 days of the birth here, I am guessing it was either 7 or 9 October -- but will add that as a note.
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