Father's name
Baptism of illegitimate child - it kind of looks like two names were given for the father. Is this really the case?
Catholic, Stadtsteinach, Bavaria - Baptism 9 Oct 1664 - son of Margaretha Bauerschmid
it looks like it says the father was indicated to be Peter Bauerschmidt and Hans [of Hans?] [Kor?gut]
link: https://data.matricula-online.eu/en/deutschland/bamberg/stadtsteinach-st-michael/M1%252F7/?pg=21
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Still looking for any help with this. Thanks.
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Have you looked to see if there's a later marriage record between Margaretha and Peter? If there was, it may also mention that the child was thus legitimized by the marriage. Likewise, a later death, confirmation, or marriage record for the child might list the father.
I'm wondering if the word after Peter's last name might be "aus" not "und," in which case it might mean that Peter was from Hans's farm - assuming that "Gutt" on the next line refers to farm rather than being part of the surname on the previous line.
More research required!
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@sylviaelchinger1 Thank you for your reply.
I had searched the parish records for additional clues about this couple before creating this post. I apologize for not including that. No marriage was found for Margaretha and Peter. The note in the margin seems to indicate the child's death date, but no death entry was found for him.
The word after Peter's last name still looks like "und" to me, the last letter looks more like a 'd' than an 's' when compared to the writing on the page. A reference to someone's farm wouldn't match references made in these parish books.
Can you decipher the two words after Hans?
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A larger part of the page might help to decipher the "mystery words".
Just a thought (alternative to und and aus) - could it be vid. for vide = Latin see ... possibly in the sense of "living there"?
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@WSeelentag A link to the whole page was included in the original post
link: https://data.matricula-online.eu/en/deutschland/bamberg/stadtsteinach-st-michael/M1%252F7/?pg=21
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Sorry - had missed the link.
I am still extremely unsure - but would read vid. Hans Saeser Kerh... gutt.
Is Saeser or something similar a surname you have come across in this region? A potential explanation then could be that re the information about the father, this Hans Saeser in the Kerh... Gutt had provided or confirmed the information. Just guessing, though!
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@WSeelentag Thanks for spending time on this. Your suggestion of "vid" was very helpful.
I have not seen Saeser or anything similar in these records (I've spent a lot of time in these parish records). Also, there has not been references to Gut (Güter) in these records.
In looking through the death entries again in the years around 1664, I did find a Hans Bauerschmidt with an altero name ending in -gut (the first part didn't look the same). I'm wondering if maybe the reference is to identify which Peter Bauerschmidt. Bauerschmidt was a common surname in town. Maybe indicating that Peter is the son of Hans (who in turn is the son of Hans) Kerh..gut. (instead of Saeser it could be Hansen)
This may not solved (anytime soon), but suggesting that the word is "vid" definitely made a difference.
Thanks again.
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