Translation Request - Alswede Burial records
At the end of each burial record, it appears to have the death date (dd). It has a number followed by an abbreviation. I have selected several and hope that you can provide me with
1) what the abbreviation is
2) what it stands for
After the death date, sometimes is written, what I think is the burial day. Can you tell me if this is correct and what the abbreviation is and stands for?
Thanks so much!
Jenny
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Hello Jenny,
There is no column heading for the third column on each page. My assumption is that these are burial records rather than death records.
The abbreviation "dd" usually stands for the Latin words: de dato = on this date.
But what follows here in all cases is not a date, but to me it looks like a number and abbreviations for currency. So the abbreviation might be "dedit" which is Latin for "gave" or "offered" and this might be what the family "gave" the pastor for the burial of their family member. Notice on the right-hand page, in burial record no. 70 what is written is "gratis" = free, so there was no "charge" for this burial.
Here is a transcription and translation of burial record no. 53 on the left-hand page:
(53) den 22ten Aug: uxor Christian Schepers 24 an: dd. 1 thr.
(53) on the 22nd of August, the wife of Christian Schepers, 24 years old [was buried]; gave/offered 1 Thaler.
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Great - that is a good observation about the money. You are correct about the right column being burials.
Robert, I see that the age of the person who is being buried can be in years (an.), but I am having a difficult time figuring out what the abbreviation for months (monate) or days (tag) in these records are. Can you determine what I should be looking for?
Again, thanks so much.
Jenny
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Hello Jenny,
In record 50 I see the age as: 27 an: 10 mens[es] = 27 years, 10 months. Then I don't see the abbreviation for "mens:" again in any other record.
There is another abbreviation used which I can't decipher. See for example the following records:
(55) 15 __?
(56) 16 __?
(57) 2 __?
You may want to ask this question again as a new question using these three records as examples and post to the community at large.
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Robert -- Using your example of where the age of the person being buried, followed by the $ amount paid, I figured that the squiggly Latin word for age would probably by months, weeks for days.
Then I took two examples and found by comparing the christening date to the burial date and age info [using a 1747 German calendar], that the squiggly probably means weeks.
Here are two examples:
Christening --
Name Johan Friderich Heueers
Sex Male
Father's Name Bartold Heueers
Father's Sex Male
Event Type Christening
Event Date 12 Jun 1747
Event Place Alswede, Lübbecke, Westfalen, Preußen, Deutschland
Event Place (Original) Alswede, Westfalen, Prussia
Burial --
2 Nov 1747
Johan Friderich Heüer
21 ??? [21 weeks would be June 8th]
Christening --
Name Dorthie Agnese Tailers von dem Buchholtze
Sex Female
Father's Name Tailers von dem Buchholtze
Father's Sex Male
Event Type Christening
Event Date 24 Sep 1747
Event Place Alswede, Lübbecke, Westfalen, Preußen, Deutschland
Event Place (Original) Alswede, Westfalen, Prussia
Burial --
1747
[burial 3rd column, left page]
66) Eod [2nd of 9ber/November]
Dorothie Agnese Tailers 6 ???. dd 18 pg(pfennig?)
6 ??? would be 21 September
Thanks for setting me on the right road☺️
Question answered.
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Good detective work, Jenny. Well done!
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