Translation assistance
Digging in and working hard. Just found a death certificate for my great, great grandmother’s brother-in-law (Martin Rico). If someone could please help me translate his date of death, his age (DOB if possible). I believe his daughter’s name is Isabella and he is married to Maria (something) Sofia Breda.
Any additional info would be greatly appreciated!
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Hi Kimberly
The death was recorded on the 14th of April 1908, but it happened the day before, the 13th of April. Antonio Breda was one of the people reporting the death at the municipal office.
His age was 74 ("settantaquattro"), but there is no info about the DOB.
It says he was a painter ("pittore"), and that he lived in Venezia but he was born in Madrid.
His father's name was Antonio, and his mother's name was Isabella Ortega. They both had already passed away at that time.
Then, it says he was married with Maria Breda called Sofia (called = "chiamata", the word you didn't get). At that time, his wife was still alive presumably.
Hope it was helpful.
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Wow! Painter was the part that I had missed. Turns out he is a very famous painter and his work is in The Met! Here is his work if anyone wants to see: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/437460
Maria Breda (Sofia) who was married to Martin is the sister of my great, grandmother. Anyone know if it is common in the Italian culture to name your children the same name?
Many thanks!
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Wow that is awesome 😍 did you have any clue that there could be a painter related to your family?
What do you mean the same name? It was pretty common to give the firstborn the name of their grandfather (if he was a male). It was more rare that the children were given the same name of their parents, but it happened sometimes.
By the way, I found this biography of Martin Rico y Ortega, where Maria Breda is mentioned - and Belluno is mentioned as well. It can help explain something about the death of Eleonora Dubrowska (from the previous posts).
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What a great find! I was looking through the various information out there about Martin Rico and I couldn’t find a mention of Sofia or their daughter Isabel. And the mention of Belluno! That explains a lot. Also, that they describe Belluno as in the Dolomite Mountains, which family legend says Eleonora was shipped off to as a child. This provides stronger support that she may have grown up in the area.
I knew my great, great aunt was married to a man named Rico for a short time but had no idea of his identity. Wow! I was searching yesterday for the marriage certificate and now I can narrow it down because I have the year. FTW!
My question about having the same name is about how my great, great aunt and great grandmother both share the first name Maria. (GGA: Maria Sofia Breda Dubrowska) (GGM: Maria Breda). This has provided some interesting twists in my research. I know they’re not the same person because my great grandmother Maria would’ve only been nine years old at the time of Martin and Sofia’s wedding.
I can’t thank you enough for that little gem! 😊
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I'm very happy to help and glad that it was useful in your research :)
About the names: the name Maria is special and deserves a special discussion. It was rarely used as a single name, but rather in combination with other names (in your case: Maria Sofia, for example). But in general, is a plausible situation that one sister was just called Maria and the other Maria Sofia. In the latter case, the person would often be known and called with their second name (Sofia).
Hope it was clear!
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