1770 Baptism Questions (Wald, Solingen, Rheinland, Prussia)
I need some help with this. It may be the baptism of my 3rd great grandmother: FHL film 176250, image 6 of 404: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8Y-L67F
Can you explain the 1st column? Transcribe and translate words in the 2nd column? Review and correct names in the 4th column?
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The X in the first column means the child died, probably soon after her birth. You'd have to search the death records for a corresponding entry.
The second column reads -
Hat Joh Wilh Hartkop
[Oben?] zu Manckhaus sein
seine Ehl. Tochterl. tauffen lassen
so - Joh Wilh Hartkop from Manckhaus had his legitimate daughter baptized.
Third Column - the first person is probably Joh Pet Muz.
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So if the "X" means the child died, this "Anna Catharina Hartkop" is not my 3rd great grandmother. This is a great thing to know! Thank you @sylviaelchinger1. I will look for a death record to confirm and then continue the search for my 3rd ggm.
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@sylviaelchinger1 or anyone else: When you say I need to search for her death record "soon after birth", do you mean weeks, months, or years? If years, how many? I have searched several films for her death 1770 through 1772 without success. Should I go further? Or search other films? Or both?
I found a duplicate entry for her birth on 14 Jan 1770 that does not have an "X", which makes me want to find a record of this child's death. The duplicate is on FHL film 176252. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8Y-LVKH?cat=99374
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Gary, it's exciting that you are finding Mankhaus records! I've looked through numerous entries in this book for comparison. To me the sponsor's last name appears to be Mutz. It is more clearly written in other records.
The x is a bit mysterious to me. It certainly could signify that the child died. But it is usually a more distinct cross rather than tipped over to an x shape. I looked through this book and there are no distinct crosses, only a few x's, some of which were marked over and one with a question mark. I would have expected more of these markings if they were meant to signify death and that the markings would more distinctly be crosses. It makes me wonder if these marks were added later for some other reason.
As to when the death might have occurred, I have seen church baptism records for my ancestors updated with the cross that died in old age. Usually a date of death is also noted by the cross. Are the confirmation records for this church available? If so, check for the years around 1784 to see if she was still alive then.
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Unfortunately I have found no confirmation records. At least not online...
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