3 questions on 1687 Pfalz marriage record
Help please on 3 questions regarding this 1687 marriage record for my direct ancestors Sebastian Röller and Elisabetha Ricard:
- Any idea what the initial phrase is: looks to be 'pmihs. pclä' and is found in the neighboring records, too. I didn't find any clues in Thode.
- The groom's father Christian Röller is described as 'sorl' or 'serl' (the word immediately following his name) which presumably refers to him as deceased given the following descriptor as 'gewesenen burger'. I can't find 'sorl' nor 'serl' or other variations that would fit. Any ideas what that word is?
- Christian is also formerly from what looks to be Claburg or Cloburg. Do you agree with that transcription? But I can't find any location with that name. Any ideas.
MDCLXXXVII
Eod. dito [Den 18th 9bris]. Pmihs. Pclä: Zu Mülhoffen copuliert worden Sebastian Röller, Christian Röllers serl?? gewesenen B. Zu Claburg ehel. Sohn mit Elisabetha Johann Rickards B. Zu Mülhoffen elel. Tochter.
Translation:
1687
On the same date [the 18th November]. ?? ??: Sebastian Röller, legitimate son of the late Christian Röller formerly [middle class] citizen at Claburg, was married with Elisabetha, legitimate born daughter of Johann Rickard, [middle class] citizen in Mühlhofen.
Protestant Reformed Parish in Barbelroth
* '''Marriage''': "Germany Marriages,
1558-1929"<br/>Citing FHL microfilm: 193777; Record number:
43;<br/>[https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J425-LVD
FamilySearch] (accessed 22 January 2022)<br/>
:Name: Sebastian Röller
:Sex: Male
:Father's Name: Christian Röllers
:Father's Sex: Male
:Spouse's Name: Elisabetha Rickards
:Spouse's Sex: Female
:Spouse's Father's Name: Johann Rickards
:Spouse's Father's Sex: Male
:Marriage Date: 1687
:Marriage Place: Barbelroth, Bergzabern, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland.
:Marriage Place (Original): Barbelroth, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
:Source Details: p 8
*Similar record: '''Marriage''':
"Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials,
1500-1971"<br/>Citing Marriage, Barbelroth, Pfalz, Bayern,
Deutschland, Barbelroth, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes,
Germany.<br/>[https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPRN-RVHV
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2022)<br/>[https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSWT-D936-F
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*Similar record: '''Marriage''':
"Germany Marriages, 1558-1929"<br/>Citing FHL microfilm:
193777;<br/>[https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4YL-CQN
FamilySearch] (accessed 22 January 2022)
*FamilySearch Image accessed 26 May 2022:
Image number 00140: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L92X-C93F-D
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Hello Tom,
- just guessing: could it be an abbreviation of something like "praemissis proclamationibus" = after proclamations/banns ?
- the word (abbreviation) is seel. = seelig, which means as you correctly inferred: deceased
- I have no suggestion, sorry.
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@Ulrich Neitzel : I asked the question about 'Claburg' to the Pfalz FB group and someone suggested it should be Cleburg, which is today Cleebourg, just across the border in Alsace, France -- and was Kleeburg in Meyers. Only 10km from the Billigheim area.
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Thanks @Ulrich Neitzel. Do you agree that the spelling of the place name is most likely Claburg (Cloburg)?
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That seems reasonable.
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