Would you please help "translate" this document?
Information on Victor Ivar Ohrstrom family.
"Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGC-P9DF-N?cc=2790465 : 22 July 2019), > image 1 of 1; from "Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1920," database and images, MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com : n.d.); various Lutheran parishes, Sweden.
Thank you
Wendy
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I am not sure how much information you want from this record. I can give you the names, birthdates and birthplaces and some of the notes.
Name: Victor Ivar Öhrström widower | occupation: mason | Birthdate: 24 June (18)71 | Birth place: Helsingborg's stadsförsamling
Name: son Sven Jonathan | Birthdate: 9 May (19)01 | Birth place: Helsingborg's Stadsförsamling
Name: son Arvid Leonard | Birthdate: 9 May (19)01 | Birth place: Helsingborg's Stadsförsamling
Name: son Erik Waldemar | Birthdate: 22 April (19)04 | Birth place: Helsingborg's Stadsförsamling
Name: daughter Iris Victoria | Birthdate: 5 June (19)09 | Birth place: Helsingborg's Stadsförsamling
Name: Ida Gustafva Davidsson | Birthdate: 29 March 1878 | Birth place Skårby
Name: illegitimate son Karl Gustaf | Birthdate 10 January (19)07 | Birth place Lund (since Ida Gustafva and Karl Gustaf move in from Västra Sallerup on the same date they must be mother and son). Their move in record is here (#799): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00124830_00097#?c=&m=&s=&cv=96&xywh=2650%2C428%2C2314%2C1243.
In the Notes column, there is a note for Victor Ivar that he has a certificate dated 10 July (19)08 that says he is free to marry. The note indicates that he is going to Västra Sallerup for that purpose. Their marriage record is here: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00137874_00092#?c=&m=&s=&cv=91&xywh=-14%2C639%2C4380%2C2352.
There is a note on the far right of the page (in the moving-out column) indicating that on July 23 (19)09 they moved to page 43 in this book.
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Norm! How are you! you always help me sooooo much! Thank you!!! A couple of questions:
1) Do you think Ida Gustafva Davidsson and er son are related to Victor? I don't think so.
2) would the boy's last name be Ohrstromson? Ohrstomsson?
3) Would Iris's last name be Ohrstromdotter?
4) The link to the marriage record won't connect. Could you send it again?
5) I wonder what is on page 43?#*???
You are Terrific. Thank you
Wendy
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Ok. a little more help on this one please:
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"Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGC-GQXP-J?cc=2790465 : 24 July 2019), > image 1 of 1; from "Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1920," database and images, MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com : n.d.); various Lutheran parishes, Sweden.
It looks like his first wife, Maria Jacobina Svensson (why "son" shouldn't it be "dotter"?) died 12 May 1907, which makes sense if he is going to marry in 1908 (from prvious doc you transalated). And now they are in America... Can you see a year on this document? His dauther, Iris isn't listed here, so she died or got married, I guess.
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"Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGC-P579?cc=2790465 : 18 July 2019), > image 1 of 1; from "Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1920," database and images, MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com : n.d.); various Lutheran parishes, Sweden.
On this one, it lists "Fyrkanten" as a residence. Do you think that is Fyrkanten, Helsingborgs, Malmous, Sweden?
another document says Barkakra Chr. as a residence of Maria....
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It looks like they moved. The heading says "Farm....." and I don't know what the rest means. Would it be a residence I can put in FS that is a legitimate address?
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"Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGC-P1HM?cc=2790465 : 18 July 2019), > image 1 of 1; from "Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1920," database and images, MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com : n.d.); various Lutheran parishes, Sweden.
Any new infor on this one?
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"Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGC-P9W7-G?cc=2790465 : 5 August 2019), > image 1 of 1; from "Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1920," database and images, MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com : n.d.); various Lutheran parishes, Sweden.
Anything new?
Well.. I Know I'm asking a lot. But thank you for taking the time, IF you have it.
Wendy
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I meant to type Helsingborg's, Malmohus, Sweden
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I think Iris is the daughter of his next wife...and the reason she isn't in the Examination record... reference #1) above, she wasn't born yet. Hopefully pg 43 gives the new wife's name... fingers crossed.
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For information on Patronymics, see this article in the Family Search Wiki: https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Sweden_Solving_Common_Problems_in_Swedish_Genealogical_Research, especially the section titled "Names and Naming Practices in Sweden".
Household examination records contain information for a range of years. This one is 1900-1907. You can see that if you click on the "Information" tab at the bottom of the page.
For an article on "Household Examination Records" see this article in the Wiki: https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Sweden_Household_Examination_Records_(Husf%C3%B6rh%C3%B6rsl%C3%A4ngder)
2).
Fyrkanten is the residence (farm/village/neighborhood) on this page of the household record. And, yes, it is in Helsingborg (aka Hälsingborg), Malmöhus, Sweden. Barkåkra Chr. (Kristianstad or Christianstad) is the place where Maria Jacobine Svensson was born.
3).
Columns 9 and 10 (see the heading) list the place and date that the people moved from. Victor moved from page 1919 (which is the page previous to this one) in 1900 and Maria Jacobine moved in from Barkåkra on 12 January 1900. To see Viktor on the previous page, click on the arrow (<) in the black bar near the top of the page. It looks kind of like this: < Image 31 of 304 > . It isn't really and address, just a page in the book in this case.
The moving out information is on the far right of the page in columns 16 (the place) and 17 (the date). I believe this one is saying that they can be found on page 3645 in 1900.
4).
This record gives the date of their marriage: 2 December 1899 and where they have moved in from (columns 9 and 10) and where they move to (columns 16 and 17). I also records the dates and places where their 3 children are born.
5).
Nothing new on this page-only where they have come from (in the previous book) and where they go to in the next one.
Page 43 is here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGC-P9D6-F?i=244&cc=2790465.
It turns out that Victor Ivar Öhrström is the father of Karl Gustaf (b. 10 January 1907). Karl Gustaf's birth record is here (entry #7): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0025882_00202#?c=&m=&s=&cv=201&xywh=313%2C2881%2C2485%2C1594.
The new wife is Ida Gustafva Davidsson (b. 29 March 1878) in Skårby.
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Sorry, I forgot about the marriage record link. It is here (entry #28): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00137874_00092#?c=&m=&s=&cv=91&xywh=-88%2C47%2C5478%2C2879.
I will attach an image of the page in case the link still won't work.
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Thank you. I AM learning. I have been translating the top headings. It is just so hard for me to actually read their cursive writing and I am scared to make mistakes. I will read the two articles you sent me. Acutually, I've just been set apart to be a Service Missionary at the Family Search Center here in St George, UT. (Please don't shudder).
I cant believe a picture of Victor's adult son, Arvid, just came as a hint from FS. It is on his passport to, of all places, Brasil!
Thank you again,
Wendy
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