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WWII Ohio Draft Card - Indexing Disappeared

Nyx773
Nyx773 ✭✭✭
January 25 edited January 25 in General Questions

I came across this WWII draft card from Ohio.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X5D4-FMV?lang=en

Before attaching it to M57T-RWG, I did what I always do: Complete the Indexing. I did that, plus added his wife.

Once I completed the indexing, there was some message stating something like "we can't tell if this is a match" Or "we can't tell if it's attached" and there wasn't a way to attach the source.

I then refreshed, and POOF! all the indexing is gone! Both the new indexing I did (including the wife), but also all the old the indexing that was there before I started. Just a message stating it hasn't been indexed (but it had been!)

Please help.

And now on the Details, on the right hint section it states:

We're unable to show this record.

This record can only be displayed on certain accounts. FamilySearch must honor the agreements we have with our partners, record owners, and internal policies.

Similar problem to the Michigan Draft Card Problem already discussed:

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/184825/michigan-wwii-draft-cards-image-and-or-record-not-available
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  • SerraNola
    SerraNola mod
    January 26 Answer ✓

    @Nyx773 Thank you for your detailed explanation. It appears the problem with permissions being lost during edits has recurred. I am unsure if it relates to the restricted WWII records from Michigan and Nebraska, but both concerns will be brought to the attention of engineers.

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  • Nyx773
    Nyx773 ✭✭✭
    March 3

    @SerraNola

    All the problems previously experienced with the WWII cards for Michigan and Ohio are still happening. Now I'm having problems with WWI draft cards for Pennsylvania.

    I just had a similar experience for Paul/Paolo Iesue GFBP-6WV. I don't think I changed/added any indexing yet (but maybe I did). Because there wasn't a year listed for the registration (only month and day), I scrolled to the left, then the right to see the dates on other cards.

    The next record (to the right) is a draft card for his brother Domenico Iesue G19G-9X8. It is not indexed at all. I then created a source for my source box and attached it to both profiles (since the latter listed the former as his next of kin).

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1V4-PMR?view=index&cc=1968530&lang=en&groupId=

    After googling to find out the specific dates that the WWI draft happened, in order to complete the indexing for Paul GFBP-6WV, I then went back to his profile.

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/GFBP-6WV

    But now, when clicking on the hint for Paul's WWI draft card, it states:

    We're unable to show this record.

    This record can only be displayed on certain accounts. FamilySearch must honor the agreements we have with our partners, record owners, and internal policies.

    Since the record is next to his brother's, I am able to find it. Here it is, but now all the pre-existing indexing has disappeared!

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81V4-25S?view=index&cc=1968530&lang=en&groupId=

    What is going on?

    Am I jinxed? 😜 It's getting to the point that I'm afraid to click on any draft card and risk it imploding.

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  • JulianBrown38
    JulianBrown38 ✭✭✭✭
    March 4

    Many images in this image group have no indexed data. By going to the last link specified in the previous post, I could scroll around, and jump to various random images. It seems that at least half of the images throughout the whole group have no indexed data. There isn't any obvious reason why some images are indexed and others aren't.

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  • SerraNola
    SerraNola mod
    March 5

    @Nyx773 @JulianBrown38

    I've reviewed this and found it affects twenty-two states in the WWI collection. At this point, it's unclear if user actions are causing loss of permissions or if it's something else.

    I won't be able to meet with engineering until next week, but your insights will be helpful. Stay tuned for updates.

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  • Nyx773
    Nyx773 ✭✭✭
    March 5

    @SerraNola

    Thanks. The problem is happening in both the WWI and WWII collections.

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  • SerraNola
    SerraNola mod
    March 6

    @Nyx773 With the WWII records we found Records Management was applying state laws to NARA records, but not sure if that is occurring during a permissions update after an edit. It's important to have user experiences to share with the engineers.

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 6

    I'm not sure if it is from the same cause/effect, but I recently noticed that the image is unavailable for my grandfather's WWII draft. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRK2-TZR?lang=en

    I probably tried to edit it at some point because the index is in the name of Michael, but the card is in the name of William. His nickname was "Mike" (typical for an Irish fireman). Michael has been struck through and "Wm" written in pencil above.
    The image can be seen on Ancestry: https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1002/records/8823794

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