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how to place farm worker when importing census

PamNana
PamNana ✭
October 3 edited October 6 in Family Tree

how to place farm worker that isn't a family member when importing census

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  • Wayland K Adams
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    October 3 edited October 6

    Hi Pam There are two possibilities. If you know where the person belongs (ie parents and siblings) you can go there and attached the census. Chances are you won't know that information. If that is the case, then you can create a profile for an unconnected person. You do this by clicking on "Recents" at the top of most pages. Go to the bottom of the list and click on "add unconnected person" Fill out as much information as you have and click on next. At this point family search may identify a possible match or you can create a new person. Here are the more detailed instructions.

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-add-an-unconnected-person-to-family-tree
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  • Paul W
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    October 3 edited October 3

    ssuming you want to connect them to the family in whose household they are found (specifically the Head of household), go to the Other Relationships section on the Details / Profile page. Click on "Add Other Relationship", which produces this:

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    From the drop-down menu choose "Employment", then add the Employee, either by ID reference (if they already have one) or by creating a new profile for them. (Click on Add Person" and proceed.)

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    To be honest, I have never tried this myself! Just a personal preference, but I would probably only use this feature to add cousins or other persons in the household who were somehow directly related to the "Head". However, this feature (of connecting employees, neighbours and others) appears to have been introduced by "popular demand", so I believe users should utilise it if they feel it suits their way of linking individuals on the tree in a broader way than was previously offered here.

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  • Paul W
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    October 3 edited October 3

    Excuse non-correction of any typos / grammatical errors - I would have to add screenshots again if I edited my post, as adding them here has again become a problem for some reason.)

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  • Adrian Bruce1
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    October 3 edited October 6

    @PamNana - there is a third option. Do NOT do anything with them. Just ignore the entry altogether.

    You should only ignore them if you don't recognise them as a member of the family at the farm. I'm assuming that you don't recognise them, in which case you are free to ignore them and not attach their entry to anything. If you do ignore them you will get a message against the attached Source Record saying "This source has not been attached to all people found in the record" Don't dismiss it, just ignore that message, leaving it there. It's fine to do that.

    So why do I advocate ignoring the entry? Why not attempt to create a new profile as @Wayland K Adams suggests? Because if I do that, I probably have to start thinking about whether any possible match identified by the FamilySearch site is the farm worker or not - that's bad for me. I have my thinking hat on about the family on the farm. The last thing I want to do is suddenly start thinking about someone else before I've finished with the family living on the farm. It's a complete disruption of my thought processes and can therefore result in errors. And if FS does identify a possibility, how on earth do I know it's the worker in question? The suggested possibility might have died as an infant - a researcher into that family might know this - I certainly don't.

    I could just create a completely new profile for the worker but this is going to be a pain in the posterior for anyone researching that worker's family because they will then have to merge my newly created profile into an existing profile, and doing a merge is always more complex than just attaching a source.

    Please don't ever feel that just because you can do something, then you should do it. Someone else might know a lot more about your unrelated farm worker than you and you're not stopping them from doing anything if you ignore that record.

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  • JuanZuluaga3
    JuanZuluaga3 ✭✭
    October 3 edited October 6

    @PamNana, could you please expand, perhaps including a screenshot?

    There are ways to add non-kin relationships.

    Capture.PNG

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  • Jack Hern
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    October 3 edited October 6
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/608742#Comment_608742

    I like this idea in the case where you see the worker (or non-family member) staying with the family over 2 or more census'. While not blood related, there is a relationship over time; finding on one census only, you don't know if they were working for the week, summer, or other short time.

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  • Wayland K Adams
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    October 3 edited October 6

    Hi Pam Certainly doing nothing is an option as suggested by @Adrian Bruce1. And it's perfectly fine to do that. And by the way, this isn't just farm workers but includes others that may be living in the home such as domestic help, boarders or even extended family members you don't recognize because of different surnames. My mindset is that I have a source for a real person with name, date of birth based on age at the census, place of birth and perhaps even the place of parents' birth. Who knows where that can lead to either for my own family research or in helping others fill in their family. So, I often choose to add them and see what happens.

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  • Paul W
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    October 4 edited October 6

    This question was also raised at

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/182103/how-to-place-farm-worker-when-importing-census

    Perhaps a moderator might wish to merge the two items.

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  • Ashlee C.
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    October 6

    Mod note: Two discussions were merged into one to keep all relevant information together.

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  • RTorchia
    RTorchia ✭✭✭
    October 24

    If there's a census for a family plus one or two non-family members, I find it easiest just to initially create the profile by adding them as children or siblings, then just manually detaching them. It's much faster to do that than to create the profiles manually using "Add Unconnected Person".

    I hadn't thought about setting Other Relationships afterwards, but I might. I just noticed that "household" is one of the relationship options, but it doesn't seem to be defined anywhere. It's criminal that they didn't move Guardianship to Other Relationships.

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  • Wayland K Adams
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    October 26

    @RTorchia Hi, thanks for your comments. Relative to creating non-family members as children first and then removing them. I don't recommend doing it this way. It puts the wrong parent-child relationship in the latest changes for both the non-member person and each of the parents. And even though you remove that relationships, which is also recorded in the latest changes, they remain part of the latest changes forever. Having this information in the latest changes can be confusing to others and can even lead to the restoration on the relationship. I think it would be better to do it the recommended way of using "Add Unconnected person". I don't think it is ever appropriate to intentionally enter wrong information into family search. Latest changes have a very long memory.

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  • AnneLoForteWillson
    AnneLoForteWillson mod
    October 28

    @PamNana I have to admit that I walk between two lines on this one. In my thinking, it all depends…

    I usually end up doing research on that random person to see if there is some longer term relationship and like @Adrian Bruce1 says, I often end up chasing a squirrel instead of focusing on the family that I was initially researching. That said, I usually can't just ignore them because I've found that far too many of those random 'boarders' end up married into the family somehow.

    I have some that turned out to be cousins, a boarder that got involved with the wife and they later married, another listed as a 'ward' of the husband turned out to be the wife's much younger half-sister, a family member remembered 'Aunt Alice' who showed up in three consecutive census records but was not related at all and a ggggrandfather who had a different female 'servant' every census and fathered children with each of them in between census years.

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  • Wayland K Adams
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    October 28

    @PamNana I agree on it all depends. But whatever we do, it needs to be back by some research as you indicate.

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