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Maria55699
Maria55699 ✭
May 14, 2024 edited December 19, 2024 in Family Tree

I found my grandfather by name(my mothers father). I want to link him to my tree but he has no ID. How can I do this?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 16, 2024 Answer ✓

    The blue "attach" button on an index detail page brings up Source Linker. There are circumstances where Source Linker can create profiles or add relationships to existing profiles, but I don't think it's the best first step.

    Instead, I went to Family Tree - Find, put in "Gabriel Contreras Penafiel", and got as the very first result a person with the right names of parents and country of death (though no dates): https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GK47-P3V.

    If that looks correct to be intended as your grandfather, then you can attach the profile as your grandfather by copying its ID, going to your appropriate parent's profile details page, scrolling down to Family Members, clicking "Add Parent", and choosing "by ID".

    Independently of attaching the existing profile as your grandfather, you can attach the indexed death record as a source to the profile by copying the ID, then going to the index page and clicking the blue "Attach" button, and using the copied ID to choose the tree-side focus person.

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    Forgive me if you already know all this, but perhaps an explanation of the basic structure of things on FS would help.

    FS is a vast sprawl of disparate elements that are variously connected to each other. Two of those elements are the database of indexed records, and the collaborative, open-edit Family Tree. The intention is for the Tree to have one and only one profile per deceased person, and for every entry in the index database to be attached to exactly one profile in the Tree. Both are very distant goals, for various reasons. For example, the Tree was initially populated (a dozen years ago) from FS's prior systems, which had multiple profiles for the same people, and a lot of that duplication still hasn't been cleaned up. Another reason is indexing errors, or more broadly, the fact that indexes aren't actually the data, no matter how much easier they are for the computer to parse than the documents they're based on.

    The primary tool for creating connections between indexed records and tree profiles is Source Linker. It's a highly flexible and efficient tool, but it can't do everything. For example, it cannot create a profile without a relationship, nor can it correct errors in an index. (It can, however, be used to connect everything as correctly as possible, despite such errors; it just sometimes takes some contortions.)

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 14, 2024

    If you found your grandfather in the FamilySearch Family Tree, then he has an ID number (PID). If you found a record that mentions him, then he may not be in the tree.
    Can you share the URL of where you found him mentioned? It will be easier to help you if we can see exactly what you are seeing.

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  • Jorge Hygino Braga Sampaio Junior
    Jorge Hygino Braga Sampaio Junior ✭
    May 16, 2024

    As per the question, it seems the user found the grandfather using the record search engine. The user must add the individual (grandfather) in the tree (as the father of the user's parent) to obtain an ID, and attach the record found to the grandparent's source.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 16, 2024

    @Jorge Hygino Braga Sampaio Junior

    I don't think it is so clear-cut. The poster may have found her grandfather in Genealogies or on another website. We'll have to wait for @Maria55699 to enlighten us.

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  • Maria55699
    Maria55699 ✭
    May 16, 2024 edited May 16, 2024

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:86SZ-SLMM

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  • Maria55699
    Maria55699 ✭
    May 16, 2024

    Hi, yes I found my grandfather through the record search engine. link URL here https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3A86SZ-SLMM

    I do not know how to add him as my grandfather to my tree. There is a button that says attach to family tree, however when i hit that button it takes me to another section of linking but I don't know what I am to do there or if this is the right way to link him as my grandfather.

    thank you for your help

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  • Maria55699
    Maria55699 ✭
    May 16, 2024

    Thank you friends, I have found a way to do it and it worked. thanks again for your help.

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