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PetersonPaula2
PetersonPaula2 ✭
August 15, 2023 edited September 26, 2024 in Family Tree

Under person settings; two of the children's names are twice instead of once. How do I delete one of them- since they are the same name?

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 15, 2023 Answer ✓

    If these people are all deceased, can you share the profile ID, so we can see the underlying cause? We can't delete a name, if someone else entered it, but we can merge, if it is the same person. And, sometimes, the same profile is connected twice, after a merge.

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  • Maile L
    Maile L ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 15, 2023

    @PetersonPaula2 Community is a public online forum. For your privacy, your question was edited to remove your contact information. Please see the Community Code of Conduct for more details. https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/community-code-of-conduct 

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 16, 2023

    Paula contacted me by PM with the names of the family but not the PIDs. I was able to find the family - not always the case, since there are over 1 billion names in the FSFT.

    @PetersonPaula2 the children are indeed duplicates, as far as I can see, but the profiles have sufficient differences that the system is not suggesting them as duplicates. You will need to use the Merge by ID option. You will do it twice - once for each of the two children who have been duplicated. This help article gives the basics https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/family-tree-how-to-merge.

    If you need more help, please let us know.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 16, 2023

    My impression is that the Possible Duplicates routine hardly ever suggests that two children under the same parents are ever duplicates and have felt there are probably very good reasons for this. The reasons I would never want that routine to suggest sibling are duplicates, even if they might be, are:

    1) The two sibling are sitting right there. I don't need a routine to find them for me.

    2) Twins will not be continually offered up as possible duplicates for people who are not paying attention to incorrectly merge.

    3) Siblings who died in infancy and have a sibling given the same name won't be presented as possible duplicates and be incorrectly merged. A family in Scandinavia in the early 1800s could have three boys named Hans over a three year period if the first two died at a couple of weeks of age.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 16, 2023

    I wasn't judging the system, merely stating the fact that they are not presented as duplicates.

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  • Gordon Collett
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    August 17, 2023

    I was just wondering if anyone ever sees siblings listed as possible duplicates or if I am imagining things when I say I never see them. Then went ahead and answered the most reasonable follow up questions of "why doesn't Possible Duplicates find these obvious duplicates?" and "Why is the routine broken?" with how I would answer those questions.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2023

    I quite often see them. Especially with same-names, and when I begin the merge, I get a warning that they may be twins. 2 children with the same birth date and the exact same name are NOT twins.

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2023 edited August 17, 2023

    I just found this example, believing that these Agnes Payne siblings had not been subject to a "Possible Duplicate" suggestion:

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    Then I checked the change log (for the 1569-1569 one) and assume this suggestion had been offered previously and its being dismissed with the reason statement (siblings) is why it (they) no longer appear under "Possible Duplicates".


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    The one time I definitely do see siblings suggested as duplicates (albeit "indirectly") is when I add a child of the same name to a couple. In spite of the difference in birth / death dates from the individual already added, I still get a "Relationship already exists" warning.

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  • Gordon Collett
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    August 17, 2023

    Interesting! So either my observation is wrong and I am not remember times I have seen this or the possible duplicates engine is taking into account where someone lived. For a big part of the history of Norway the tradition of using a name repeatedly until a child by that name survived was so strong it was practically a requirement, particularly if it was the name of a grandparent.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 20, 2023 edited August 20, 2023

    And I saw this one too late last night and saved it to fix this morning after I share it here.

    Augustin Brex and wife Marguerite Tierin named several sons August before one survived. Two were even born and died in the same year. Their 2nd child, August, was born 12 Jan 1842 and died the same day. Their 3rd child, August, was born was 17 Dec 1842 and died the following day. They are being suggested as duplicate children on their parents' profiles.

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