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Pamela J. Jesperson
Pamela J. Jesperson ✭
January 8, 2023 edited July 11, 2024 in Family Tree

I believe that Oliver Barker LYLM-KJ9 and Kenneth Earl Barker LD5Q-KL6 are actually the same person. Oliver (Oliner) is listed in the 1910 census as a newborn meaning 0 out of 12 months old. I saw a birth record for a cold born in 1910 but no name. Then in 1920 census there is a Kenneth Earl Barker age 9 yr. I went on Ancestry and did a general search for Kenneth Earl Barker and found several records. I did the same for Oliver (Oliner) and found only 1 record, the 1910 census. My feeling is that Oliver (Oliner) are the same person. When born the parents may not have had a solid name and then chose Kenneth Earl Barker. I feel that Oliver should be deleted and an AKA for Kenneth Earl should be made as Oliver (Oliner) with an explanation.

Thanks for any assistance. Pam Jesperson

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  • Wayland K Adams
    Wayland K Adams mod
    January 8, 2023

    Hi Pamela Welcome to FamilySearch Community and posting your question about possible duplicate persons. What you say about Oliver Barker and Kenneth Earl Barker may be correct. The 1910 census was enumerated just a couple of weeks after the birth of the son born on 16 Apr 1910. And it is possible they hadn't settled on a name yet. The question could be asked if they were twins. However, if that were the case, they both should have been listed on the census so that doesn't seem right. In the end, it is your decision if these two are the same person once you are satisfied that you have completed the necessary research. Thanks for your question.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 8, 2023

    There are actually two questions here.

    Multiple birth? Or multiple indexing? To answer this question you will need to see the historical records themselves. They are not on FamilySearch, so contact the custodian of vital records for Oregon state. So many index records for a child born to one couple on on day is unusual. I would expect the record with the baby named Kenneth Earl to be a delayed registration.

    Name. The singleton or surviving twin Kenneth Earl probably is the infant Oliver. I would attach the 1910 census record to LD5Q-KL6 Kenneth Earl Barker, not include Oliver as an alternate name (because it may well be an error by the enumerator, or a random name offered to the enumerator who put the interviewee on the spot), and remove the given name Oliver from LYLM-KJ9.

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  • Pamela J. Jesperson
    Pamela J. Jesperson ✭
    January 9, 2023

    I know it wasn't a multiple birth, it would have been listed on the 1910 census. If there had been any records other than the 1910 census for Oliver (Oliner) that would be one thing, but Kenneth has several records and is 9 yrs. old in the 1920 census. I am unable to delete Oliver because it says there have been multiple contributors. I could merge by ID, but not sure what to do. Still need more direction. Thank you, Pam Jesperson

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 9, 2023

    I know it wasn't a multiple birth, it would have been listed on the 1910 census.

    Not necessarily. Answers to the "mother of how many children" question are not all true.

    Still need more direction.

    Contact the Oregon state vital records office to request copies of the birth certificate(s) for the children. If there was only one baby, then merge the profiles.

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  • Wayland K Adams
    Wayland K Adams mod
    January 9, 2023

    Pamela - Once you reach the conclusion that they are the same person, then you can merge the records by ID.

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  • Pamela J. Jesperson
    Pamela J. Jesperson ✭
    January 9, 2023

    Wayland K. Adams,

    I felt confident about merging by ID Oliver to be Kenneth Earl Barker. I feel confident that this is the right conclusion. Thank you, Pam

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  • Wayland K Adams
    Wayland K Adams mod
    January 9, 2023

    Pamela

    Glad it worked out for you. Take care and have fun with your family history.

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  • Maile L
    Maile L ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 9, 2023

    Here are a few articles from the Help Center (circle with a question mark to the right of the navigation bar) that might be helpful:

    How do I decide if two records in Family Tree are about the same person?

    How do I merge duplicates in Family Tree by ID?

    Maile 🙂

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