Translation help - Franziska Hron

ccr1107

Trying to read and translate the baptism record for Franziska Hron. Would someone be able to take a look at the document and fill in areas I missed as well correct any of my errors. I appreciate your help.

Solopysky

5th record:

Baptism date:  February 17, 1811

Name: Franziska

Parents:

Father – Pawel Hron – unsure last word

Mother – Anna Vanis?, unsure what the rest says

Sponsors?: Jakub Meyer & Maria Hgulova?

What information is in the last two columns?

Link to the document:

https://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz/d/11598/38

Mckenna Cooper

Here you go:

Solopysky

Baptism: 17 February 1811

House no. 5

Child: Franziska, Catholic, female, legitimate

Father: Pawel Hron, peasant farmer (sedlak)

Mother: Anna, daughter of the deceased Waclaw (Vaclav) Waniss (Vaniš), cottager (chalupnik) from Haupry (Hrabři) no. 196

Godparents: Jakub Meyer, farmer & Maria Sspalowa (Špalova), peasant's wife (selka), both from Přičow (Přicovy)

Midwife: Anna Křižowa

TJafek

I can't decipher it, but here is some information about the structure. The word following the father's name is his occupation. It is not one of the occupations I am familiar with. For the mother, it says Anna, daughter (dcera) of the deceased (that is that the "+" means) followed by his name (maybe Waclaw something) (the surname is underlined, I think priests often went through and made indexes of old records and underlined the surnames), followed by his occupation (I think "chalupník," a cottager) then it says where he is is from ("za ??? No. ??). So the good news is that once you get this translated, you will have the name of the maternal grandfather and where he is from. On the second to last column, that lists the occupations of the godparents (you see the same occupation as the father there) and it says where the witnesses are from ("oba z" means both from and then the town is listed). The last column is probably the name of the midwife. She seems to be the busiest midwife in that village; you see some other names on other pages.

Your summary did not list the house number -- 5. I don't know if you just didn't list that, but those house numbers are key in tracking people through time.

Another possible interesting thing is that you will notice that for the next baptism, the godfather is looks like it may be the same Pavel who is the father in the record you are looking at, but is his signature.

ccr1107

@TJafek Thank you very much for your help, the extra details are very helpful. I'm new to Czech records and their history. The family story is that Frantiska (baby baptized in this record) got into an argument over her parent's estate and slapped the administrator. That was one of the main reasons they decided to emigrate to America. If her father was a peasant farmer, I wonder what caused her to get so upset. Based on the definition below, maybe they were a little better off than the average farmer by owning around 10 hectacres. Especially since Solopysky was a small town.

I found this helpful to get a little more background on different occupations. It's nice the documents breakdown the definition of "farmer" to get a better understanding of their economic position.

http://www.oxfordjctgenealogy.com/main/?page_id=1281

 

@Mckenna Cooper - Thank you for your translation. I looked up the city where Waclav Wannis was from and it appears to be a small town with 30ish homes. I didn't see a house number in the 100s. Do you think they would have been labeled based on a larger geographical area? Also, from your experience, were godparents typically related or more likely neighbors/friends?

Thank you!

Mckenna Cooper

@ ccr1107 You're welcome! The house number is definitely hard to read, so it's possible that it is something else. This cadastral map from 1839 lists some farmer's names on their plots, so you can see if you can find them on it. The other thing I would do is look for any siblings of Francisska in the baptism records and see if there is a clearer version of their house number on another record.

ccr1107

@Mckenna Cooper - What a useful resource, I never knew it existed. I wasn't able to track down the Vanis family on the map, but I see Martin Hron has many large land holdings. I checked for more of Pavel & Anna Hron's children's births and noticed he is listed on one of them. I'll need to look at them closer to see if I can figure the house number.