Help with policy or submitting ordinances regarding closest living relatives.
I am a FH consultant in my ward and a member asked me a question to which I don't know the answer. It seems a bit complicated to explain but here goes:
My friends grandfather's sister (her great aunt I think) was married to a man who was previously married. This marriage ended in divorce. This man had children with the first marriage but not with his second (my friend's great aunt). Both partners have passed away.
My friend's grandfather would like to have his sister's ordinances done including sealing to her husband.
The church policy regarding requesting ordinances says that the closest living relatives an un-divorced spouse, an adult child, a parent, or a brother or sister.
In this case, the husband has still living adult children.
So if you have followed me to this point, my question is who has "right of first refusal" so to speak? Can my friend's grandfather request the ordinances for his sister and her husband or do the children of the divorced spouse have precedence since this is their father? And if so, since he had several children, does permission need to be granted by all the living children or just one?
I Hope this is clear.
Thanks!
Diane G.
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@DianeK DianeK
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Diane
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I am certainly no expert ...
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And, I stand corrected if I am wrong ...
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From the scenario you have proffered ...
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Just my thoughts ...
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Your Friend's Grandfather SHOULD certainly be able to DO the "Ordinance" Work for his Sister, including that of "Sealing to Spouse".
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Firstly; as, he IS her Brother, a close Living relative.
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And, secondly, as, the now ("Living") Adult Children, relate to the Spouse (Husband) of his Sister; and, NOT to his Sister; unless, they became "Step" Children of his Sister; that, may 'complicate' the matter somewhat; and, is another matter ...
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But ...
That said ...
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Your Friend's Grandfather would NOT be able to DO the OTHER "Ordinance" Work (ie. "B"; "C"; "I"; "E"; &., "SP") for his Sister's Spouse.
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As, the now Adult ("Living") Children, of the Spouse (Husband), are the 'closest Living relatives', of the Spouse, from which "Permission" is "Required"/"Obtained"/"Granted".
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Now ...
That said ...
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The easiest way, to "Check"/"Confirm", if one is 'Related' (of course, which he certainly is), is to select the "View My Relationship" 'Link' ...
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IF, 'FamilySearch' indicates that one is "Related" to an individual/person; THEN, there is a good/better chance that 'FamilySearch' WILL "Allow" one to do the "Ordinance' Work for the individual/person where "Permission" is "Required" - provided one is closely related.
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Your Friend's Grandfather can ONLY but try ...
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"Select" the "Request Permission" 'Button' ...
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It is the next step (stage in the process) where most Members of the Church, get stuck; or, 'stymied', at the SECOND 'Hurdle' ...
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Even if, one is NOT 100% certain, if one has "Permission"; as, in your scenario ...
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Just go ahead ...
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"Select" that "I have Permission" 'Button' ....
On the next "Pop-Up" (ie. "Modal") 'Window' ...
Then, "Answer" the 'Questions'
▬ Is the spouse of "X" alive? ... No
▬ Which relative of "X" gave you permission? ... None of the Above Is Alive
▬ Enter one's "Contact Information"
▬ "Check" the "Check Box"
▬ Submit
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Possible "Results" ...
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IF, 'FamilySearch' considers that one CAN do the Work; THEN, they will advise and TRANSFER the Work to one's "Temple" 'Tab' (ie. "List).
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IF, 'FamilySearch' has any 'Questions' that they want 'clarified'; THEN, they will send one an "E-mail", asking those 'Questions'; BEFORE, proceeding.
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IF, 'FamilySearch' DOES NOT consider that one can do the Work (ie. one is NOT the 'closest Living' relative); THEN, they will DENY one's "Request", with an explanation as to WHY.
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained ...
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Certainly, no harm in trying ...
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Just my thoughts.
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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thank you!
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thank you for the very thorough answer. I will pass the information on and we'll give it a try!
I appreciate you taking time to help out!
Diane
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Just to let you know that such work is not unusual, a few years ago I was able to have the Temple Work done for my mother's sister and and her 2 sons. Neither son had ever married, therefore, cousins are their closest living relatives. At a point in the process described above by Brett, Family Search asked me why I wanted to do the work and I explained, plus added that I am the only Church member in my mother's extended family. In less than 30-days, I found them added to my list of Temple Ready names and was able to do their work. However, I am unable to do her husband and am waiting until the 110-years have passed to be able to do his and complete the sealings. Jo
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