If someone was born in Vapnyarka, Tomashpil Raion, Vinnytsia, Ukraine in 1909, where would their bir
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@Ellie Vance can you help Tammy with her question? Thanks, Sister Jarvis
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Sister Jarvis,
I heard back from the Archives in the Ukraine. There is no record of the birth or christening for either my cousin's father, or his aunt. I'm afraid that I've run into a brick wall. According to their Naturalization papers, they gave birth dates in 1909 and 1911. However, on the ship's manifest, from when they immigrated in 1916, their estimated years of birth are 1912 and 1914, so I don't know what to believe.
I've contacted the national archives in Washington, and asked what kind of documents someone immigrating from Russia or the Ukraine would be required to have in 1916. I'm still waiting for a response.
Sister Driver (Yes, I'm also a member of the LDS Church)
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Tammy, when you hear back from Washington could you please let the group know? I have family that immigrated out of Russia during that same time frame and would appreciate hearing their response. Thank you in advance.
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Will do. I went to school with a Kelly Bodine. BHHS?
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No sadly, mine was WHS. But nice to know you all the same!
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Nice to know you too. 😊
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I'm sorry for the late reply, it's been a busy few weeks. Which archive did you contact? Did they state they didn't find the birth record in the church books, or did they not have the church books in their archive? I'll see if I can think of some other ideas of places to look.
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I received a letter, written in Russian, from the archives in the Ukraine, which said
UKRAINE
VINNITSA REGIONAL STATE ADMINISTRATION
STATE ARCHIVE OF VINNITSA REGION
street Soborna, 17, Vinnytsia, 21050, tel., Fax (0432) 53-06-17
http://www.davio.gov.ua, e-mail: archive_vn@arch.gov.ua, USREOU code 03494244
We inform that metric books about a birth on the Nikolaev church with. Palanka, Yampil district, Podil province, the parish of which included the village of Vapnyarky, which is now in the Tomashpil district of Vinnytsia region, as well as the churches of St. Stephen and Pokrovskaya village. Kolodenko of the same county, the parish of which included the railway station Vapnyarka (now the town of Vapnyarka, Tomashpil district, Vinnytsia region) for 1909 is not in the archives, in connection with which it is impossible to issue a birth certificate of Yegor Michael (Nikolaevich -?) Polyakov Kell-Polyakova), born on August 26, 1909.
Director of the archive Yuriy LEGUN
Chief Specialist Konstantin ZAVALNYUK
Elena Ilkova 530514
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I got this email today.
March 10, 2021
Dear Tammy:
Thank you for your inquiry regarding documentation required for immigration to the US 1915-1916.
At that time, immigrants needed only to purchase their vessel ticket to immigrate from Russia or Ukraine. They would be recorded on a passenger manifest for the vessel (list was created by the ship's captain/master based on lists received from ticket brokers), and were inspected by immigration officials upon arrival at the US port to confirm their admissibility (excludable classes included those likely to become a public charge, "polygamists, persons convicted of crimes of moral turpitude, and those suffering from loathsome or contagious diseases"). If admitted, there will be no further record regarding immigration. If rejected, a Board of Special Inquiry (BSI) would review the individual's case and make a final determination about their ability to legally enter the US, and you will normally see notations on the manifest (and an included list of those detained at the port that would appear at the end of the manifest) that would indicate this. If a BSI finding was appealed, the records of the case may still exist in the Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) subject and policy files maintained by the National Archives in Washington, DC.
Visas did not come into use until 1921 and 1924 Federal laws set out quotas for individuals entering the US from various countries, so you will not find this kind of documentation for a 1915-1916 arrival.
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth Burnes
Elizabeth Burnes | Archivist
elizabeth.burnes@nara.gov | (P) 816.268.8093
National Archives at Kansas City
400 West Pershing Road
Kansas City, MO 64108
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