How do I find information about my Grandfather Martin Kadlic who lived in Porsony county in Slovakia
Born about 1871 immigrated to USA March 1903. Have no information of his family. He died when my father Leo Kadlic was 3 years old.
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Do you have access to Ancestry? Is this him?
Name:Martin Kadlic Declaration Age:39Record Type:Naturalization Declaration Birth Date:23 Feb 1873Birth Place:St. Stephson Hungary Arrival Date:23 Feb 1903 Arrival Place:Baltimore, Maryland Declaration Date:16 Nov 1912 Declaration Place:Pennsylvania Declaration Number:18138
Name:Martin Kordlic
[Martin Kadlic] Petition Age:44Record Type:PetitionBirth Date:23 Feb 1873Birth Place:Austria HungaryArrival Date:1903Arrival Place:BaltimorePetition Date:12 Mar 1917Petition Place:Pennsylvania, USASpouse:Mary Kordlic
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Federal Naturalization Records, 1795-1931
Pennsylvania, U.S., Federal Naturalization Records, 1795-1931 - Ancestry.com
Betseylee Browning
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Death Certificate. Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967 Is this him?
Name:Martin Kadlic Gender:Male Race:WhiteAge:43 Birth Date:11 Nov 1873 Birth Place:Austria Death Date:31 Jul 1917 Death Place:New Eagle, Washington, Pennsylvania, USA Father:Kadlic Mother:Kadlic Certificate Number:77299
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Yes that is Martin Kadlic. That is the information I have. I am looking for information in Slovakia the county i am looking for is Porsony Bratislava. Thanks so much for looking for information
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Immigration record to the port of Baltimore Marton Kadlic age 32. Last Residence Sze Istvan- Szent Istvan or Saint Stephan
Name:Marton Kadlic Gender:Male Race:Slovenian Birthdate:1871 Age:32 Arrival Date:Mar 1903 Port of Departure:Bremen, Germany Ship Name:Chemnitz Port of Arrival:Baltimore, Maryland Destination:Baltimore, Maryland Friend's Name:Josef Gurko Last Residence:Porsony Srt. Tstoan (Pozsony, Szent Istvan= St. Stephen's) Page:48
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You consistently misspell the name of the county. Not Porsony but Pozsony now Bratislava.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozsony_County
FS immigration record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2CSN-WSF
I think he was: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V189-4H1
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About birtplace Szentistván[kút]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studienka
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Thanks so much. I have the spelling of Pozsony spelled 2 different ways. I just found out today that it is now Bratislava. How do you have the birthplace as Szentistvan?
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I think that might be my grandfather. Right name and birthday. I will investigate further. Thanks so much for all your help
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From immigration record [Last Residence]
Pozsony county, Szentistván
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from passenger list.
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from naturalization petition
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Don't you think he was from Bratislava?
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The birthdate is off. He records 23 Feb 1873 in his naturalization papers. It still could be him.
Betseylee
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death certificate says November 11, 1873. Don't know why there are different dates
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There is a tree on Ancestry that shows his wife as Mary Michalek born in Jan 1879 but has no sources. In his naturalization papers he states he was married in Austria. So let's try to find her immigration record. It might help.
Betseylee
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Also, we might try to find out where his friend Gerko, Josef from Syracuse Point, MD is from.
Betseylee
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He had the following children listed in the Naturalization Petition: Elick, Rosa, Stefan, Leopold and John? Leopold was born 10 Jan 1914.
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Mary Michalek and Martin Kadlic were married in Pittsburgh PA. It was her second marriage. I don't know if he was married before , but I don't know who the first name on the Naturalization papers is. I think maybe from a previous marriage?
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Elick I don't know, Rosa and Stefan I believe were my Father Leopold's 1/2 sisters. John died in 1917 and their was another infant Julia who also died in 1917. Martin Kadlic also died in 1917 in a train/mining accident.
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Also Leopold was born August 28th 1914. I don't know why it is wrong on the Naturalization paper
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Have you found the family in the 1910 US Census? Do you have an obit for Martin or Mary? Do you have a marriage record for them? We need to connect him to the correct place and have a tying piece of evidence. Have you any other records that you could post?
Betseylee
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I found a 1910 census for a martin Kadlecik immigrated 1903 (correct date) but birth year was 1877 . Area was south of Pittsburgh. No census for Mary Michalek because I don't know her first husbands last name.
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I looked up the fellow passengers that were coming from the same place. I do think it is Studienka.
For example Agosts Vrablicz age 31 on the passenger list.
Augustinus Vrablicz
Slovakia Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1935
Name:Augustinus Vrablicz
Sex:Male
Baptism Date:1872
Baptism Place:Studienka, Malacky, Slovakia
Father's Name:Joannes Vrablicz
Mother's Name:Maria Cziganyek
And Jozsef Kardian age 38
Josephus Kardian FamilySearch G9SS-D5C
Slovakia Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1935
Name:Josephus Kardian
Sex:MaleBaptism Date:1873
Baptism Place:Studienka, Malacky, Slovakia
Father's Name:Francisc Kardian
Mother's Name:Cathar Rehorovics
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https://www.obecstudienka.sk/ There is a photo Gallery.
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Do you have a link for the 1910 Census please?
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I do think that Tamas Ecseki has found the right entry considering his birth on his death certificate is close to that date. His immigration record, Petition for Naturalization, and Final Naturalization papers back up this place. He would be born 31 Oct 1873 and christened 2 Nov 1873. Martinius (Latin form of Martin) Parents: Georg Kadlicz (Latin Georgius) and Anna Haszler. Birthdates were kept track of like we keep track of them.
Also, two of his traveling companions have been located and their births were in Studienka. The correct parish for Szentistván is Studienka. Another thing you could do is look at the marriages and deaths for Studienka and double-check if you can find a marriage and death for Martin. If you can't this could mean he immigrated. More ways to verify is to find every US record that you can glean. An obituary would be helpful. Also check for tombstones, sexton records from the cemetery, mortuary records, and US church records. Also, search for other family members that might have immigrated.
Your next steps in the records would be to check for siblings, the parent's marriage, and then the parent's christening records. The marriage record should provide Anna's maiden name and might provide their parent's names. Here is the list of records that you can search: https://tinyurl.com/5eu9zhx7. Also, use the index:https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1554443. There is an excellent article with helps provided in the FamilySearch Wiki: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Slovakia_Genealogy
I think you are on the right track now thanks to Tamas.
Betseylee
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Thankyou so much for all the time you spent finding the answers. I have the 1910 census and am trying to scan it. It gives the location on the Pennsylvania Maryland boarder. So If his friend was from Maryland that would make sense. This has given me so much to work with. Thankyou again Patricia Rossbach
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@Betseylee Browning @Tamas Ecseki You both did a great job helping Patti Ann with her question. Its individuals like you two that make the Community a great place to get help with Family History.
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Martin Kadlic 1910 Census
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