I'm looking for the biological parents of Jorgen Nielsen (KWJL-MMH)

LeeAnn_Call

Morris Geoffrey Fröberg

Hello #[CallLeeAnn1 CallLeeAnn1]​ ,

 

The birth record in 1804 in the sources of his person page, shows that Jørgen was a child from the Plejestiftelsen in Copenhagen. I did a quick search on Sa.dk in Daisy and found this document. It might be him. @Tanner Blair Tolman​ or @Charlotte Noelle Champenois​ ​ would you look at this? It comes from the Plejestiftelsens børneprotokol. What is it saying across the top about "moderens"? Any ideas of where to continue after it says

"udsat paa landet"?

Thanks,

Geoff

Charlotte Noelle Champenois

The document refers to the male child Jørgen, born 17 March 1804 and baptized 17 March 1804. The document is filled out on 22 March 1804. On the left, it says, "Underholdspenge i 28 Dage," meaning "maintenance money for 28 days."

The chart at the top right says they were given 4 diapers, 2 hats, 4 shirts, 2 sweaters, 1 list(?), 1 wrap, 2 vests, and 2 fitted women's scarves.

On the right underneath the chart it says, "Udleveret efter Moderens Begiæring og Sergeant Freses Attest, til Birthe Marie, Tømmermand Johann Daniels Kone i Elsdyrsgaden No. 18. 1804, d. 18 April, udsat paa Landet (?) No. 48." This means "delivered at the mother's request and [according to] Sergeant Fres(e)'s certificate, to Birthe Marie, journeyman carpenter Johann Daniel's wife at [the address] Elsdyrsgade 18. 1804, 18 April, udsat paa Landet (?) No. 48."

 

Basically, what I gather from the record is that Jørgen was born on 17 March 1804. He likely remained at the hospital clinic for five days and was "udsat" (sent out for foster care) on 22 March to Birthe Marie, Johann Daniel's wife at Elsdyrgade 18, along with the items of clothing listed and maintenance money for 28 days. After the 28 days were up, on 18 April, the child was again "udsat" (sent out for foster care), and this time he was sent into the countryside. It's referring to a number 48, so perhaps there's another record like this under that entry number indicating which family he went to live with in the countryside.

 

There are several examples of similar records at https://datadrys.webnode.dk/udsaetterprotokoller/ The page also explains that udsætterprotokoller like this one indicate children for whom a foster mother was found because they could not remain with the mother for whatever reason. Initially, a foster mother would be located within Copenhagen, but some children were later sent to the countryside--which is what happened with Jørgen. In some church books you will find lists of such children who come from Copenhagen, but whom Copenhagen pays a family in the countryside to raise and nurture.

Steve Walker16

@Charlotte Noelle Champenois​ you did a lot of research to help @CallLeeAnn1 CallLeeAnn1​. Your translation of the record I am sure was of great value to Lee Ann. I was intrigued with the information you provided about foster care in Denmark during this time-frame.

 

Thanks for being part of the FamilySearch Community and helping it to grow.

Charlotte Noelle Champenois

That's very sweet of you to say, Steve, thank you! These are interesting records to dive into! Comparing the birth date listed on this record with the birth date of 3 July 1804 which I see listed in Jørgen's tree, however, this is not for the correct child. I have now found him listed in an index of baptisms of the children in the institution (linked), just with his birth date of 3 July 1804 and baptismal date of 7 July 1804; his birth entry number is 615. This number is repeated in the Copenhagen birth and adoption institution list of "kassebørn" (another word for it is "skuffebørn"; the word means foster children, but according to https://anegrene.webnode.dk/fodselsstiftelser/ specifically indicates children who were left on the doorstep anonymously); that record indicates that Jørgen was born on 3 July 1804, baptized on 7 July, "indsat" (not sure what is meant in this context) on 11 July, and sent to the city on 3 August (see linked). The register of children temporarily placed in the city (linked) repeats the birth number 615 and states that Jørgen, who [was in the city] on 3 August, was placed in the countryside on 5 Sep 1804. And @CallLeeAnn1 CallLeeAnn1​, I found your Jørgen listed in the Udsætterprotokoller collection (linked) that Geoff showed you another image of above--your Jørgen's is the second entry on the page, which states:

 

The male child Jørgen, born 3 July 1804 under number 615, baptized 7 July 1804, was "udsat" (sent out to foster care) on 3 August 1804; with him were provided (by the institution) 4 diapers, 3 hats, 4 shirts, 5 sweaters, 2 lists(?), 2 wraps, 1 løjerter(?), 5 vests, and 3 fitted scarves; delivered at the request of the mother and the previous foster mother to shoemaker Østergaard's wife living in Store Launike Stræde 38. Maintenance money was provided for 34 days. After the 34 days were up, on 5 September 1804, the child was "udsat" (sent out to foster care) into the countryside under number 210.

In the udsætterprotokoller for the countryside, then, he is found under number 210 (linked); that record states: Nr. 210, the male child Jørgen, born 3 July 1804 under nr. 615, baptized 7 July, "udsat" 5 September 1804, was delivered from the city, where he was listed under nr. 220; he was "udsat" according to a certificate from Mr. Brinch, priest in Fellesløv [probably Føllenslev], to Kirstine Andersdatter, farmer Niels Andersen's wife in Sersløw [Særslev] city and parish under Callundborg [Kalundborg] county. The child ? (possibly states he was vaccinated), but without any bodily defect and is healthy. The foster mother [does not breastfeed]. The columns are listing the maintenance money the couple was given to help care for Jørgen; for example, in 1804, the quarter ending(?) with July, they were given 1 rigsdaler and 49 skilling (indicated by the symbol ß).