Finnish ancestors information

PatiWaleCrosby

Hello! I am trying to get more information on my Finnish ancestors. Jacob Simonsson is listed in familysearch as "deceased". No other information. His personal ID# is M8F9-81R. His wife Maria Henricksdotter is also only listed as "deceased". Her personal ID# is M8F9-DM4. Is there a way to find more information on these two people? Their daughter, Brita Jacobsdotter (KZZ2-XRS) is my great-great-grandmother. There is a yellow/orange temple icon on Jacob and Maria. I would like to do their temple work some day, but need more information. The icon also suggests there may be duplicates, which I do not fully understand how to resolve.

Thank you for any help you can give me!

Have a nice day...

Pati Crosby

paticrosby@gmail.com

LegacyUser

Wow!!! I'm completely astounded and very grateful for your quick response to my question earlier today!! Thank you so, so much.

I'm also a little overwhelmed with the prospect of figuring out how to join the families! I completely understand the importance of NOT redoing temple work for individuals that has already been accomplished! It makes me wonder if the few names I have taken to the temple over the past 10 years already had their work done... 😮 😳 😯

My goal or purpose is to seal husbands and wives and children. I hope I can figure it out...

Thank you again for all your info and help!

 

Pati Crosby

Heidi Kuosmanen

Here is the family in the farm of Storå in Kronoby.

Kronoby församling - Längder över födda och döpta 1826-1842, jakso 102: 1833 05; Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9021014

Parents Jacob Simonsson (9 Nov 1801- died 17 Apr 1834) and Maria Henriksdotter (1809 - died 19 May 1834).

 

From death records they both died from Nerffeber (typhoid fever)

Jacob Simonsson: Kronoby församling - Längder över födda och döpta 1826-1842, jakso 13, sivu 23-24: Döde 1833, 1834; Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9020930

 

Maria Henricsdotter: Kronoby församling - Längder över födda och döpta 1826-1842, jakso 13, sivu 23-24: Döde 1833, 1834; Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9020930

 

Father's birth record: Kronoby församling - Längder över födda och döpta 1788-1816, jakso 80: Födda 1801 (sep-nov); Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9020710

Parents: Simon Jacobsson and Maria Ericsdotter

 

Jacob Simonsson has one duplicate which already has all temple work done: M8FX-7VK

Most likely temple work is already done for the mother Maria Henricsdotter also. You just need to find that duplicate.

Heidi Kuosmanen

Here is vital information for you because you are a member and you have Finnish ancestors:

 

In Finland almost all persons who were born before 1850 and their name can be found from birth and baptism records have all of their personal temple ordinances already done! (In some areas in eastern/south east Finland up to 1879)

 

This is because after Utah Genealogical Society (current FamilySearch) microfilmed all church records in Finland, there was an extraction project that collected almost all birth and baptism records and then for all those names, temple ordinances were performed in 1960-1990’s. This extraction was made using christening dates because early records do not contain birth dates, only christening date.

 

This is very little known outside of Finland and this causes so much unnecessary temple work and many duplicates in the FamilySearch Family Tree. Please make sure that you take these steps before you reserve any Finnish family names and take them into the temple:

 

1. Find the original birth record (very good free source: http://en-dot-digihakemisto.appspot.com/)
   1. HisKi project is a very good help when finding birth records: HisKi project - Parish list (genealogia.fi) (it contains indexed birth/marriage/death decords, but always remember to verify the HisKi information from original records)
2. Add Birth name as it is in the birth record (add other known names in to the Other Information section)
3. Add Birth date and place with correct province
4. Add Christening/baptism date and place (Parish)
5. Add father and mother with those names as were written in the child’s birth record (if the names are name variations and parents are already added into the FamilySearch Family Tree, add names into their Other Information section)

 

With these steps FamilySearch database should suggest for you a duplicate which has the indexed birth record with a title e.g. Isaac, "Finland Baptisms, 1657-1890"

This duplicate person record should contain also parents. Remember to merge these parents if parents are already added into the Family Tree.

 

If no wanted possible duplicate is offered, you can try to find it by using "Find Similar People" search. Add only child's first name, birth/christening date and place with correct province and parents first names.

 

 

In Finland there were two main naming practices

A good article: http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/art/article216e.htm

 

1.      Western and Southern Finland:

• Majority people were mostly known with their patronymic/matronymic (illegitimate children) name. Father’s son or daughter e.g. Mattsson/Mattsdotter. Often priest added the farm name after their name to help to identify people. The farm name changed every time the person moved. That farm name in not a Family name. Often when people emigrated to abroad they took their farm name as their real family name.
• Soldiers had soldier name which some times became the family name but not always.
• Merchants, craftsmen and clergy/priests often took a family name when they started their profession if their family did not already have the family name
• In the communion books (Rippikirjat) if the name is written on top of the page or names, then it is the farm name. If the name is written after person's name then it is the family name.

2.      Eastern Finland:

• People had real family names but often their patronymic is added into their name to help to identify them.

 

FamilySearch Help articles:

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-to-enter-names-in-family-tree

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-to-enter-scandinavian-names-into-family-tree

 

 

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I have made similar instruction to Finnish people. I am in Finland the Tampere Stake Temple and Family History Instructor Consultant and my ward FamilySearch Center director.

I would like to help patrons to understand how very important it is to verify your family history research before entering into the temple because I see so often work performed to those ancestors whose work is already done. They have said in Helsinki Finland temple that about 95 % of names have already been done and that is a lot!

 

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Heidi Kuosmanen

But you still need to join the families, because after extraction there is just one child and his/her parents. E.g. for family of 10 children, the parents are extracted 10 different times and you need to merge them and the parents are also in their own record with their parents, so lots and lots of merging and I warn you that many times it can feel frustrating.

 

For this joining of families you will need to use church records, mainly communion books (rippikirja).

Here are those records for Kronoby where your family lived (it was and is a Swedish speaking parish, so all books are in Swedish):

Kronoby församling (digihakemisto.appspot.com)

Heidi Kuosmanen

Your welcome. This is a good forum to ask questions and I am quite often here if you have Finnish family history question and here are others who can help also.

Heidi Kuosmanen

Hello Pati,

This works still fine. You can comment and ask more here. Here you have more options like attaching documents more easily.

Best Heidi