Who is Mary Alice Murphy's mother?
I'm looking for Mary Alice Murphy's mother if Murphy's the last name. Going back reviewing records it's just not sitting right with me. There are no records with Mary Alice as a child. Too many discrepancies in marriage documents & census records. Want to find out who is actually her mother.
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We need more information than that. If Mary Alice is in Family Search, what is her ID#? If not, what is her birthday, date of death, location, spouse. There are 887,000 women by this name in the USA.
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You really need to be more specific. If I search for Mary Alice Murphy, I get thousands of results. 582,295 to be exact. What is your Mary's date and place of birth? Date and place of death? Who was she married to?
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Alice Dill as shown on the 1870 census is in the household with Monroe Dill & 3 inferred children. On one of her marriage license is shown as Harriet Murphy born in Tennessee being mom & Isaac being dad. Alice Dill has been married as you will see several times. On documents there were parent names of Mary Johnson, Harriet Murphy, Isaac Murphy, Joe Murphy & George Murphy. Allas Dilley was born 1857 in Missouri per 1880 census. I found no earlier records for Alice. 1870 census Harriett Murphy with Isaac Murphy & children Abram 19, Sylvester 16, Elizabeth 4. 1880 Census records shows Mary Johnson with Isaac Murphy & children Joseph 17, Elizabeth 14, & Millie 10.
1880 census Allas Dilley born abt. 1858, Missouri, Mulatto, married to Monroe Dilley, parents: mom = Tenn. & dad Missouri.
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1910 census Mary A Montgomery, spouse John Montgomery with children Mabel Montgomery & John Connors
Missouri Birth Records, 1851-1910
Name Alice Sides, Birth Place Missouri, USA, Spouse Minor Sides, Child Florence Sides
Marriage license:
Name
Alice Dill, marriage Date 13 Aug 1903, Marriage Place St Clair, Illinois, USA, Spouse Name John Montgomery
Alice Murphy, marriage date 15 Sep 1888, Marriage place St. Francois, MO, Spouse Name Mr. Lewis Cayce
Mary A Dill Col Jr, marriage date 30 Jan 1884, marriage place Crystal City, Jefferson, MO, Spouse Miner Sides
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On the 1900 census it shows her son Joseph Dill (LTN-XHN) living with his grandparents.
Alice marriage license to John Montogomery (9MYYN-MZH) shows father as Joe Murphy & mom as Mary Johnson (L1V2-544). License #2936 Aug. 15, 1903. Alice 5th marriage.
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If you have several different sets of parents for Alice, then there are several different girls named Alice with same/similar names; they are NOT the same person.
You wrote:
"On documents there were parent names of Mary Johnson, Harriet Murphy, Isaac Murphy, Joe Murphy & George Murphy. "
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On the 1900 census it shows Mary Alice son, Joseph Dill (grandson) living with Mary Johnson (L1V2-544) & Isaac Murphy.
On the 1910 census it shows Mary Alice 2 sons, Clarence Connors (9HSV-2YQ) & Ferdinand Sides (l1T1-NN9) living with grandparents Mary & Isaac Murphy.
Miner Sides, Ferdinand father & Charles B. Connor, Clarence father.
Alice marriage license to John Montgomery (9MYYN-MZH) shows father as Joe Murphy & mom as Mary Johnson (L1V2-544). License #2936 Aug. 15, 1903. Alice 5th marriage.
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This is the same person.
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Joseph, Eliz, & Millie are listed as the children of Mary & Isaac in the 1880 census.
Alice has to be listed under both sets of parents since at least 3 of her children are claimed as grandchildren to Mary & Isaac, and she claims her parents are George & Harriet on her death certif, and Harriet as her mother on one marriage record.
Without the actual birth certif you are just stuck not knowing.
We did untangle quite a lot of your family, though. I am proud of all this work.
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