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Deniese Drake
Deniese Drake ✭✭
November 8, 2019 edited November 11, 2019 in Social Groups
Help with translating end comments on exam record

Family of Peter Carlsson. He has died. Daughter Kajsa is listed as hustra but no husband shown. Son Wilhelm and daughter Erika. Erika dies. What does it say about Maria and Kajsa at end of line? And where did Samuel move to in 34? Thank you much. Deniese​

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0023959_00092#?c=&m=&s=&cv=91&xywh=4540,1543,973,1386

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  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    November 8, 2019

    I am not sure what it says at the end of line, something happened at 1836.

    But Kajsa Greta married 11 March 1834 Johan Sjöström

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0023983_00433

     

    Here is Wilhelms birth record, clergy has written that parents were married year before but after short time he separated from her and clergy does not know if the father has acknowledged the child: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0023983_00389

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    November 8, 2019

    I believe it reads that Samuel moves to Kråksmåla.

     

    The note for Maria reads something like: "at/with widow Maria (something) Kaisa Greta.

     

    I think the note for Kaisa Greta says: wife Kaisa Greta (was) legally separated (s:kild-abbreviation for 'särskild') from her man (husband) in 1836.

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  • Deniese Drake
    Deniese Drake ✭✭
    November 8, 2019

    The svar record 1844-48 pg 314 shows mother Maria, daughter Kajsa, son Wilhelm sjostrom, and son Frans Oscar. Frans shows as illigitimate. Would you read this as his father not same as wilhelm's father?​

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    November 8, 2019

    I would say so, yes. Have you looked at Frans Oscar's birth record? It may list his father.

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  • Deniese Drake
    Deniese Drake ✭✭
    November 8, 2019

    No I have not checked birth record yet. Have been working all day on this family and forget things. Thank you for your help and reminder.​

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    November 8, 2019

    Thought you might like to know-ArkivDigital is free this weekend. This link should let you sign up if you would like: https://www.arkivdigital.net/users/register .

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    November 9, 2019

    I am not sure if you are aware of this, but it looks like Wilhelm and Frans Oskar have changed their surnames to Sjögren in the Karlskrona household records. See here: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0057873_00496#?c=&m=&s=&cv=495&xywh=24%2C1933%2C2903%2C1435 .

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  • Deniese Drake
    Deniese Drake ✭✭
    November 10, 2019

    Norm- the last record I have of Wilhelm and Frans Oscar is household record 1844-48 pg 314 Algutsboda. There names are crossed out but nothing saying moved or died. Using info you found I went through Algutsboda moving lengths in that time frame but did not find either boy. Then I went to Karlskrona moving lengths and there are no records for that time frame. How did you find them in Karlskrona? I see their name change. Is that because they both entered military and given new soldier name?? Thank you much. Deniese​

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    November 10, 2019

    One of the benefits of using Arkivdigital, is that all of the household records in the entire country between 1860 and 1947 are indexed! You can do an "Index" search of the 1860-1947 household records, and put in a name and birthdate, and you will get a list of everyone in the household records for that time period. It makes it really simple to find anyone as long as: (1) you know the birthdate listed in the HHR (not always the same as as the actual birthdate) and (2) the name matches. I simply did a search with the birthdate on the records we already had and combinations of Per, Pehr, & Munter. There were some results of the same person with the name spelled Munther.

     

    As to why their names were changed from Sjöström to Sjögren, I can't say.

     

    Sorry about the part above about Munter!! That was someone else I have been working on! But the method of finding people is the same. Just put in a birthdate and name (first and/or last) and you should get information that is helpful.

     

    You might want to take advantage of the last few hours of the free Arkivdigital today to see what else you can find.

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  • Deniese Drake
    Deniese Drake ✭✭
    November 10, 2019

    Thank you. I started to sign up with Arkive but this family is an older one so still in records before 1860. I will get signed up though and see what I can find. Thank you so much.​

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    November 11, 2019

    The index search should find anyone who was in the household records in Sweden between 1860 and 1947 regardless of when they were born. Many people born in the last half of the 18th century are in the HHR. You may have to be creative with the search parameters, however. Searching with less information will get more results. For instance, with just a first or last name and a birthdate. If the records aren't exactly what you think they should be, you may not get any results. And be sure to select "Population of Sweden 1860-1947" in the "Index Search" tab .

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