Military Levying Rolls help
If I am looking for a man that was in the military in and around the year 1838 in Denmark and I want to find his military records, where do I go? I have a gggrandfather who had an illegitimate father who by the birth records state he was in the military based out of Kopenhaven but was in Holbaek when he met this girl and had a son. Would I be able to find him in the Holbaek levying rolls or in the Kopenhaven levying rolls? I hope this makes sense.
I have researched him for years and to no avail. There are so many military levying rolls for Kopenhagen that it seems impossible to find him.
Thanks for your advice and expertise.
-Michele
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I'm happy to look into this for you and others will help. There is also information in the FamilySearch wiki concerning the military rolls. When an illegitimate male is placed on the roll he is frequently listed under his mother's name and remains that way until he is released. Of course there are exceptions. Would you like to share his information or FamilySearch PID? I'm a bit lost, are you wanting to follow the father or the son. https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Danish_Military_Levying_Rolls_(L%C3%A6gdsruller)
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I am looking for the father, Jacob West. His FS PID LCFF-MPF I have been researching him for years and the only lead I have is maybe his military records. There are two different records of his sons birth, one states the father as Jacob West and the other as Jacob Weilsen. So I am trying to figure out what military records to pursue, Kopenhaven or Holbaek.
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In a quick review I see his record (Christian) is lacking his confirmation. Here is that record naming his father as Jacob Westesen.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=426664#426664,78446519
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Thanks Shari, I have never seen his christening record before. Any ideas on how to find Jacob Westesen in the levying rolls? Looks again like he is from Kobenhaven.
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Michele, you are so welcome. Yes, I know how to search the rolls but the trick will be where, Copenhagen or Holbæk. I do have a little theory to check out. We know Jacob would be in the 1840 census. There is a possible match, Jacob Hansen West seen in the Copenhagen census as a 26 year old. I need a little time this evening to do some looking. In addition to the levying rolls, there are the military service records for Copenhagen. (I'm less experienced with that). Here is that census I'm considering, he is a skræddersvend = journeyman tailor. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS21-5VGX?i=1665&wc=WGX8-T7R%3A1599562322&cc=2778651
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Yes, I have searched the levying rolls as well but that is my question as well...where? Copenhagen or Holbaek. Thanks for helping me. I have been on the trail of this brick wall for many many years. I just keep coming back hoping to find something new. Again THANKS!
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In Christian Jacobsen's baptismal record, his father, Jacob West, is listed as being in Copenhagen by the 1st Livregiment--this was an infantry regiment of the Royal Danish Army from 1763 to 2000 (see linked). In 1819 it became known as the "1. Livregiment til Fods." According to the FamilySearch Wiki's "Denmark Infantry Units, Part B" article and the accompanying "Danish Army Records Background" article, "FØRST LIV REGT Til Fods" is the unit known as 2 Battalion, which came into existence in 1819 and ended in 1842; for the previous name, see line 323 ("Det DANSKE LIV Regt. Til Fods," which lasted 1763-1819), and for the later names, see lines 105 ("FØRST (1st) LINIE Inf. Bat," 1842-1848) and 103 ("FØRST (1st) JAEGER KORPS," 1842-1860). And records for the entire period are included in the FHL holdings ("R"). I'm not sure what they're listed under though; Shari or @Tanner Blair Tolman, do you know? I found a Jacob Conrad West listed in the "Card index of Army Officers of Denmark, 1757-1860"; the index card contains a reference, but I am not sure where to locate the document it refers to (in case it's the right Jacob West; it's the only one I found in the collection).
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I'm sorry I don't know where to find the document referred to in the card index. I hope someone else can.
I think Christian was conceived in Copenhagen as we see his POSSIBLE mother in the 1838 Føllenslev "coming in" records from Copenhagen. https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/sogn512/churchbook/source139992/opslag15426443?fbclid=IwAR1k3XpfAoD5wDEGgMX56WriflnvkEnVCCFCNRptOTLDgZMhEOPE28nt4Vw
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@Charlotte Noelle Champenois This was shared with me, but I can't determine how it can help us. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C33K-L9RC-5?cat=416356
Stambog for 4 Battalion 1819-1834 page 312.
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Since, we know the specific regiment Jacob West belonged to, your best bet would be military records from that unit, not the levying rolls. The Family History Library has some regimental records, but there are many many more that we do not have. All of them, however, are available through the Danish State Archive's search engine, Daisy, and I have found that is the easiest way to access them.
I think this is the collection that is most likely to help you. These are muster rolls starting in 1783 and would list each soldier in the unit, give information on his age and birthplace, and what levying roll he was coming from.
It looks like the Danish state archives have the original document and a microfilm, but they have not yet published it online. To view it you would either need to go to Denmark, hire a researcher in Denmark to view it, or if you explain the situation to an archive employee, they will gladly email you scans of it for a small fee (I bet you pay like $50). mailbox@sa.dk
I did check the FamilySearch catalog, and I don't think we have the records in our database so this really is your best option.
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Tanner, this is helpful information and I've learned a lot (hope to remember it too!)
Shari
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Thanks to you all for taking the time to help me with this brick wall. I will contact sa.dk for more information.
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