Royal Navy Seaman's service record
My ancestor served in the Royal Navy as an errand boy beginning Aug 1874. I would appreciate some help understanding a couple of things.
The attached record shows his service from Aug 1874 - Jun 1876. The Discharge column notes Run Montevideo. Does this suggest he did a runner in Montevideo? However the record also states he signed up for 10 years continuous service on 21 Nov 1876 after his last listed voyage. Any idea where I could access (for free) a copy of the service record from 1876?
Thanks in advance.
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I just found this page (at https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6618990 )
As you can see, provided you sign up / sign in, you can obtain a copy of the document for free. I trust this is not just a copy of the document to which you have provided a link, but fear it is!
Here is a description of the record (giving his DOB):
Also, I assume you are aware of his Family Tree profile, at https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L2WD-F5C
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@ Paul W
Oh thank you Paul for going to all this trouble. Yes, it is as you feared, the same as I already have (and uploaded in my initial message). I'm confused by this document as it states he served from 1874 to Jun 1876 and also notes he signed up for 10 years of continuous engagement from 21 Nov 1876. It raises two questions for me:
- Would there not be a service record from 21 Nov 1876?
- What does the comment under "If Discharged" - run Montevideo - mean? Maybe just relating to the voyage (as opposed to jumping ship otherwise how could he have signed up on 21 Nov)? I did research the last voyage aboard Volage - it went to south east coast of America.
I am trying to find out what happened to John Miles. I've managed to track his siblings but not him. His mother Martha Miles is a direct ancestor - my 3xgreat grandmother. I'm also trying to determine if John Bunting was his likely father.
Thanks, I'm aware of the FS record and can see you must be the Paul W contributor? Wonderful! We could be related! How are you related to the Miles family? I have put in a relationship request to you via John's record.
Cheers,
Liz
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No, sorry Liz, but no relation! I just added the birth registration record to his sources when I saw it hadn't been attached! I'll try to have another look tomorrow (just past midnight here in London), but couldn't find any sign of him in the England & Wales census 1881 onwards, so maybe he did abscond and never returned to England! (I soon realised the TNA document must have been the same one that you illustrated.)
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Good morning/Good evening Paul, (8am here in Australia 😉)
This morning I received a copy of the Birth Record for John Miles, the young man whose Royal Navy service records I've been chasing in this thread. I wanted to confirm I have the right John Miles and see if there was any further information.
The birth record confirms the birth date of 21 Nov 1858, as recorded on his RN service record. His RN service record shows birth place as St Martin, Lincoln which matches all other info I have to date. The birth record records Place of Birth as "7 New Edingbro' Lincoln". The nearest I can find is Edinburgh Square.
Can you help me find this location? Do you know if it is a street, place/town/village or maybe a hotel/hostel/place of accommodation?
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers, Liz
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Sorry for delay in response. No, I can't find the location. However, I did find him in the 1861 census on the FreeCEN website. See https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/61365555f493fd75db3a6ec9/john-miles-1861-lincolnshire-lincoln-home-1859-?locale=en As you will see, the family's residence was by then Naylors Row, Lincoln - in St. Michael's parish. The page for his 1871 census record https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59039667e9379091b14be9c3/john-miles-1871-lincolnshire-lincoln-home-1859-?locale=en shows the family still at Naylors Row. The unidentified location of "7 New Edingbro' Lincoln" was probably also within the city of Lincoln as St Martin's parish church apparently stood in the High Street before its demolition. Naylors Row is shown to be in St Michael's ecclesiastical parish, but there does not appear to be a St Michael's church in Lincoln any longer. Sorry I cannot help further, but I am not familiar with the area.
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Thank you Paul. I so appreciate your time. I've managed to find those census records and locations albeit some of these churches and street names no longer exist. Someone that has a friend familiar with the area has offered to check it out for me.
I do find English place name structures challenging at times with villages, towns, parishes etc. but I'm always learning lots. Only ever having been to London a couple of times (loved it), I hope to come and explore more of England one day. I've connected with extended family, through DNA matching, in the Yorkshire Dales and I have ancestors from Cornwall and Wales. So much to see!
Thanks again for all your efforts to help me. Hope you have a great evening.
Cheers
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