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Ammon Kerr
Ammon Kerr ✭
February 17 in Social Groups

In a family member's information, the death date is exactly known and listed, but the burial only has a year. The burial's year is the same as the death year so the Quality score assumes it was before the death when it doesn't have enough information otherwise

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  • roberthparker3
    roberthparker3 ✭✭✭
    February 20 Answer ✓
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    @Kerr, Ammon Zackery Allen , I'm not sure how the data got into this state, but the standard date did not match the original date. Correcting the standard date will make the issue go away.

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  • Ammon Kerr
    Ammon Kerr ✭
    February 17

    Person's page is:

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KWZL-556

    Computer is Dell Laptop running Windows 11, browser is Firefox

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 17

    A year, without a month/day, sorts before a full date. An obituary or death certificate should supply the full date of the burial.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 17

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile, but the point is, the alert is plain-old wrong. The burial wasn't prior to the death, and what's entered doesn't say that it was. FS's choices about sorting do not change these facts.

    If I ever bothered with burials, I'd be getting this false error on every profile: Hungarian civil registrations of deaths do not record anything about burial. I know where my great-grandmother is buried, but there exists no record of when she was buried there.

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  • Rhonda Budvarson
    Rhonda Budvarson ✭✭✭✭
    February 17

    @Kerr, Ammon Zackery Allen thank you for the feedback. I will add this to the queue.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 19

    This brings up an interesting philosophical question. If you don't know a piece of information, is it better to leave a spot blank or to make up information? And if making up information is it better to be vague or to try to be as accurate as possible.

    If the burial date is left blank because it is unknown, one will still get a "burial date missing" flag that can just be dismissed.

    I assume that in just putting in the year, there will be not only this "burial before death" flag but a "missing a month flag," both of which can be quickly dismissed.

    One could, in this case, avoid all flags by being more precise and entering the burial date as "After 9 February 1982" but neither this date nor the "1982" entry actually adds additional detail, quality, or accuracy to the profile. So why not just leave the date blank? The burial place, if known, can be added without a date and does add to the quality of the profile.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 19

    @Gordon Collett, I can see an argument that the year of burial can actually add information: if "1982" was entered because it's definitely known that burial was in the same year as death, that's more information than "after 9 Feb 1982".

    ("Same year as death" is not automatic or always the case. For example, my dad died in 2011, but we buried his ashes in 2012.)

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  • Ammon Kerr
    Ammon Kerr ✭
    February 20

    Oh, that's weird, thank you for the help!

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  • Rhonda Budvarson
    Rhonda Budvarson ✭✭✭✭
    February 20

    @Ammon Kerr we were in the process of creating a ticket for a bug when Robby caught this. It was weird.

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